Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 07:43:48PM +0200, J.A. Bezemer wrote: > Oh please!! Unlike some people like you to believe, there exist no revisions > other than CD revisions. There are no FTP revisions. FTP changes _much_ more > than the CDs due to many security fixes. Huh? Security fixes go in security

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-18 Thread Jules Bean
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 04:10:53PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > It's almost impossible to remember all the little things that might go > wrong as well, so encapsulating that knowledge in a regression test > suit is definitely the way to go. In which vein, it might be helpful to have test machines

Re: WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 02:39:26AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > Not for me... > > > > Life is nice isn't it? > > > > > > (And then stop sending this "Not for me"-answers all the time or > > something bad

Re: WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread goswin . brederlow
Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Not for me... > > Life is nice isn't it? > > > (And then stop sending this "Not for me"-answers all the time or > something bad could happend) I would guess thats a mial loop, like an away message. MfG Go

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On 17 Aug 2000, Philip Hands wrote: > Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > WTF is the difference? Nothing but a naming scheme. It's still a change, > > either way you do it, why do you want to nitpick the mechanism? > > Personally, I'd favour doing something that makes it as clear as >

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Philip Hands
Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > WTF is the difference? Nothing but a naming scheme. It's still a change, > either way you do it, why do you want to nitpick the mechanism? Personally, I'd favour doing something that makes it as clear as possible that it was a CD production SNAFU, and tha

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 07:43:48PM +0200, J.A. Bezemer wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Ben Collins wrote: > > > I've gotten reports that the ISO for CD#1 on sparc is completely broken. > > Although the packages and dist files are there, the CD will not boot, > > since almost none of the boot1 fil

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread J.A. Bezemer
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Ben Collins wrote: > I've gotten reports that the ISO for CD#1 on sparc is completely broken. > Although the packages and dist files are there, the CD will not boot, > since almost none of the boot1 files are on the image. I'd hardly call this "completely broken". I guess yo

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 04:10:53PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > Anthony Towns writes: > > > Well, one thing that'd help would be having a cdimage.debian.org that > > doesn't crash all the time. That's the main reason we didn't have any > > time at all to check things, or for Phil to double check

Re: WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Peter Makholm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Not for me... Life is nice isn't it? (And then stop sending this "Not for me"-answers all the time or something bad could happend) -- Peter

WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt
sendet am: Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:41 > An: debian-cd@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Betreff: WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened > > Not for me... > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > Annette Schweigardt > AO

WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt
sendet am: Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:36 > An: debian-cd@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Betreff: WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened > > Not for me > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > > Annette Schweigardt > AO

WG: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Annette . Schweigardt
sendet am: Donnerstag, 17. August 2000 17:11 > An: debian-cd@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Betreff: Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened > > Anthony Towns writes: > > > Well, one thing that'd help would be having a cdimage.debian

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Philip Hands
Anthony Towns writes: > Well, one thing that'd help would be having a cdimage.debian.org that > doesn't crash all the time. That's the main reason we didn't have any > time at all to check things, or for Phil to double check things with you > as to how things should be done when the first sparc i

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, a side note, but I think an important one. Ben Collins wrote: >We have to remember, vendors are burning these CD's almost as soon as >we make them available. WE are costing them money when we fuck up, and >it isn't thre fault because they expect these things to work when we >m

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Philip Hands
Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I could blame myself, but the fact is the image was not created right (it > needs to be done as either root, or under fakeroot, which requires the > *entire* process be done in a single session, not multiple fakeroot > incantations, which might be the caus

Re: Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 06:31:04AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > Well, you get the point. I don't want to place blame. I just don't want to > see this shit happen again. Here's what I want to see next time (2.2 r1): Well, one thing that'd help would be having a cdimage.debian.org that doesn't crash

Broken bootable SPARC CD#1, and why this happened

2000-08-17 Thread Ben Collins
I've gotten reports that the ISO for CD#1 on sparc is completely broken. Although the packages and dist files are there, the CD will not boot, since almost none of the boot1 files are on the image. Now I could blame this on Phil, who created the images, but that wouldn't be right, since he can't b