Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:41:21PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Given the great abundance of revision control systems already packaged for Debian, what is the point of adding another? Especially when it is non-free. Firstly, as it is non-free, it isn't really going into Debian. Secondly,

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 11 octobre 2007 à 15:01 +0100, Jon Dowland a écrit : It seems every other semi-controversial ITP gets an obligatory why package this when we have X,Y,Z instead? reply, although seemingly never from an ftp-master or mirror maintainer or anyone else who is actually impacted by archive

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Jon Dowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems every other semi-controversial ITP gets an obligatory why package this when we have X,Y,Z instead? reply, although seemingly never from an ftp-master or mirror maintainer or anyone else who is actually impacted by archive sizes :-( Consider it

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-10 Thread Florian Weimer
* Pierre Habouzit: (I don't know anything about Perforce. Perhaps it's really dangerous software. But perhaps it's just non-free.) OTOH I'm always reluctant to see new things enter non-free when there is perfectly suitable alternatives. I mean git, hg, bzr, or even the horrible svn can

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-10 Thread Steve Greenland
On 08-Oct-07, 16:15 (CDT), Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:41:21PM -0400, Roberto C. S??nchez wrote: Given the great abundance of revision control systems already packaged for Debian, what is the point of adding another? I don't see the relevance

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-09 Thread Sam Clegg
On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 14:42 -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me that this depends on Perforce. D'oh. (I don't know anything about Perforce. Perhaps it's really dangerous software. But perhaps it's just non-free.) Perforce is an

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-09 Thread Sam Clegg
On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 05:41 +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote: Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:41:21PM -0400, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote: Given the great abundance of revision control systems already packaged for Debian, what is the point of adding another? Especially when

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-09 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Sam Clegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perforce is an absolutely *excellent* VCS with the unfortunate distinction of being proprietary. SubVersion can do most (but not all) of what it does, albeit 10 times slower. Still, I've migrated all of my stuff over to subversion, because, well,

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-09 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:41:21PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Given the great abundance of revision control systems already packaged for Debian, what is the point of adding another? I don't see the relevance of this argument, really, but if you really think it's a problem: What if someone

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:15:38PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:41:21PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Given the great abundance of revision control systems already packaged for Debian, what is the point of adding another? I don't see the relevance of

Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-08 Thread Sam Clegg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sam Clegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: perforce Version : 2007.2-2 Upstream Author : Perforce Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.perforce.com/ * License : proprietary Programming Lang: binary only (with

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-08 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 07:30:09PM +0100, Sam Clegg wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sam Clegg [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: perforce Version : 2007.2-2 Upstream Author : Perforce Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.perforce.com/ *

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:41:21PM -0400, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote: Given the great abundance of revision control systems already packaged for Debian, what is the point of adding another? Especially when it is non-free. How about people use it? There's plenty of installations of perforce; I

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-08 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 07:52:55PM +, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:41:21PM -0400, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote: Given the great abundance of revision control systems already packaged for Debian, what is the point of adding another? Especially when it is non-free.

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-08 Thread Florian Weimer
* Pierre Habouzit: How about people use it? There's plenty of installations of perforce; s/perforce/windows/ and the sentence is still true ;) The Windows copyright is pretty restrictive AFAIK. If it weren't, I'm certain we hould ship things like Virtualbox VMs in non-free because there

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-08 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems to me that this depends on Perforce. D'oh. (I don't know anything about Perforce. Perhaps it's really dangerous software. But perhaps it's just non-free.) Perforce is an absolutely *excellent* VCS with the unfortunate distinction of

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-08 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:32:23PM +, Florian Weimer wrote: * Pierre Habouzit: I think making it easier to use Debian with them is within the mandate for non-free. There is ways to interact with perforce in debian, in a free way: git-p4 being one of them. | * The import does not

Re: Bug#445866: ITP: perforce -- closed source revision control system

2007-10-08 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 03:41:21PM -0400, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote: Given the great abundance of revision control systems already packaged for Debian, what is the point of adding another? Especially when it is non-free. How about people use it? There's plenty of