Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-25 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/24/2012 11:03 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: Ubuntu'e `melange' is Deprecated, and is pending removal from the archive (see launchpad[1]). It's deprecated upstream, and won't exist in Debian :) Fondly, Paul I thought I made myself clear, but it seems I haven't (sorry):

Namespaces (was Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment)

2012-07-24 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 13:00:14 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:22:06PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte a écrit : Let's please keep the namespace clean. I'll talk with whoever introduced it, but we can upload a temp metapackage and upload it with time for a beer after.

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-24 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/24/2012 12:00 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: Also, we should not favor software written in the context of our downstream distributions, compared to sofware written independantly, otherwise the take home message will be that if one project wants to own a dictionary word in Debian, they just

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 02:28:16PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 07/24/2012 12:00 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: Also, we should not favor software written in the context of our downstream distributions, compared to sofware written independantly, otherwise the take home message will be that if

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Sorry for replying to myself, but here are some updates: that it might add difficulties in the future if we don't use the same names for the same thing will not help. Ubuntu'e `melange' is Deprecated, and is pending removal from the archive (see launchpad[1]). It's deprecated

Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-23 Thread Mike Gabriel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Gabriel mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de * Package name: melange Version : 0.4.9 Upstream Author : Sebastian Billaudelle sbillaude...@googlemail.com * URL : http://cream-project.org * License : LGPL-2.1+

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-23 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:31:09 +0200 Mike Gabriel mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Gabriel mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de * Package name: melange What, if any, is the relationship between this and melange used for the Google Summer of

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 01:31:09PM +0200, Mike Gabriel a écrit : Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Gabriel mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de * Package name: melange * Package name: console Dear Mike, I am a bit concerned that these are quite common words. Have you

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-23 Thread Mike Gabriel
retitle #682496 ITP: cream-melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment thanks Hi Neil et al. Am Montag, 23. Juli 2012, 14:01:01 schrieb Neil Williams: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 13:31:09 +0200 Mike Gabriel mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de wrote: Package: wnpp Severity:

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/23/2012 07:31 PM, Mike Gabriel wrote: * Package name: melange This name clashes with Openstack Melange. https://github.com/openstack/melange http://wiki.openstack.org/Melange https://launchpad.net/melange/ Please don't use it. This name is *already taken* and used in Ubuntu (though I

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-23 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 01:46:24AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 07/23/2012 07:31 PM, Mike Gabriel wrote: * Package name: melange This name clashes with Openstack Melange. https://github.com/openstack/melange http://wiki.openstack.org/Melange https://launchpad.net/melange/ Please

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On Tue Jul 24 2012 02:02:50 AM CST, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: This seems an aweful lot like the nodejs / node situation. It's very different. Here the clash is at the package name level, not binaries in /usr/bin. Let's not let anyone take melange and use cream-melange and

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-23 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 09:50:21AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On Tue Jul 24 2012 02:02:50 AM CST, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org wrote: This seems an aweful lot like the nodejs / node situation. It's very different. Here the clash is at the package name level, not binaries in

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:22:06PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte a écrit : Let's please keep the namespace clean. I'll talk with whoever introduced it, but we can upload a temp metapackage and upload it with time for a beer after. Hi all, I agree with Paul. Our downstream distributions do not

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-23 Thread The Fungi
On 2012-07-24 13:00:14 +0900 (+0900), Charles Plessy wrote: [...] short, common dictionary words are better be avoided in the interest of all. [...] For executables launched through automated processes or some GUI, I can more or less agree. However, for tools invoked regularly from a shell