Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-21 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> You can disagree with this approach. However, in my 10+ experience > setting up security gateways for Internet traffic (mostly for > HTTP/FTP/SMTP) I've seen only a few vulnerabilities in the gateways > themselves. Many of the gateways I have deployed are either network > appliances with a Commo

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-20 Thread Javier Fernandez-Sanguino
On 18 October 2013 12:41, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> I have to join Marc here and say "me too". In my organisation we >> actually have those controls in place (antivirus/antimalware) in the >> Internet gateways and we do not disable them for specific traffic >> flows unless a detailed risk analysis

Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2013, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > I'm still not sure why the virus contained in the source could not be > > replaced by the EICAR test signature. > > Because it’s not testing a virus scanner, but because the > specific RFC822 message in q

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> > It's not difficult if you reject the requirement of being DOS[0] executable: I meant ending up with something byte-for-byte identical. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-18 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Jonathan Dowland , 2013-10-18, 08:55: Someone should reimplement eicar under a clear license using clean room techniques. I may do so if I find time. It's not difficult if you reject the requirement of being DOS[0] executable: echo$IFS'Free-Antivirus-Test-File'|tr$IFS'-'$IFS"$IFS" The hard

Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-18 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > I'm still not sure why the virus contained in the source could not be > replaced by the EICAR test signature. Because it’s not testing a virus scanner, but because the specific RFC822 message in question exhibited multiple problems in the code, due to

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I have to join Marc here and say "me too". In my organisation we > actually have those controls in place (antivirus/antimalware) in the > Internet gateways and we do not disable them for specific traffic > flows unless a detailed risk analysis has been done (and approved). Personally I disagree

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 17 Oct 2013, at 19:21, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote: >> eicar.com does not have a distributable license. > > Neither does the virus discussed in this thread (Win32.Worm.Mytob.EF) > included in libmail-deliverystatus-bounceparser-perl. Good point, I agree it should be removed on that bas

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-17 Thread Javier Fernandez-Sanguino
On 16 October 2013 10:56, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:19:38 +0200, "Thijs Kinkhorst" > wrote: >>I'm missing why the package cannot use the EICAR test virus signature for >>its purposes. > > eicar.com does not have a distributable license. Neither does the virus discussed in this t

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-17 Thread Javier Fernandez-Sanguino
On 16 October 2013 11:12, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:54:36 +0200, Dominik George > wrote: >>> Some of the source packages were caught on a gateway anti-virus scanner >>> while >>> downloading. >> >>Using a gateway anti-virus scanner for downloads from the Debian archive >>seems a

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-17 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, October 16, 2013 10:56, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:19:38 +0200, "Thijs Kinkhorst" > wrote: >>I'm missing why the package cannot use the EICAR test virus signature for >>its purposes. > > eicar.com does not have a distributable license. I doubt that's relevant, because the

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 20:17:53 +, "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: >On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:12:47AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:54:36 +0200, Dominik George >> wrote: >> >> Some of the source packages were caught on a gateway anti-virus scanner >> >> while >> >> downloading.

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:12:47AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:54:36 +0200, Dominik George > wrote: > >> Some of the source packages were caught on a gateway anti-virus scanner > >> while > >> downloading. > > > >Using a gateway anti-virus scanner for downloads from the Debi

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 12:59:33 +0200, Dominik George wrote: >Marc Haber schrieb: >>On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:19:38 +0200, "Thijs Kinkhorst" >> wrote: >>>I'm missing why the package cannot use the EICAR test virus signature >>for >>>its purposes. >> >>eicar.com does not have a distributable license. >

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 01:11:01PM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > Looking at it as code, it is a 16-bit DOS Hello world-program. Not > copyrightable, I suppose. I do not want EICAR to be copywritable, but I reckon it probably is. A surprising amount of work went into developing EICAR: it's a valid

Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Dominik George: > It isn't a false positive in that regard that the package *does* in fact > contain the virus sample. That's non-free code and not suitable for main, so it must be removed from the source tarball anyway. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Dominik George
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dominik George schrieb: >I do not think it is actually copyrightable software. It is a string >that was agreed in to trigger antivirus scanners, so it is more or less >a protocol. Consider the downloads at eicar.com reference >implementations. Loo

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Dominik George
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Marc Haber schrieb: >On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:19:38 +0200, "Thijs Kinkhorst" > wrote: >>I'm missing why the package cannot use the EICAR test virus signature >for >>its purposes. > >eicar.com does not have a distributable license. I do not think it

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:19:38 +0200, "Thijs Kinkhorst" wrote: >I'm missing why the package cannot use the EICAR test virus signature for >its purposes. eicar.com does not have a distributable license. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! -

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:54:36 +0200, Dominik George wrote: >> Some of the source packages were caught on a gateway anti-virus scanner while >> downloading. > >Using a gateway anti-virus scanner for downloads from the Debian archive >seems a bit inappropriate, well, paranoid. Checking the signed has

Bug#726393: Info received (Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages)

2013-10-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
Scott Kitterman wrote: >Boots fine if the image is not persistent. Sorry. Wrong bug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2fe29cdf-969b-4298-ae9f-8a98

Bug#726393: Info received (Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages)

2013-10-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
Boots fine if the image is not persistent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/0c081e4b-992d-4c1e-8eb4-6b3884e5b...@email.android.com

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Jarkko Palviainen f-secure.com> writes: > I looked into one of these, libmail-deliverystatus-bounceparser- > perl_1.531.orig.tar.gz, and found multipart email file containing zip > attachment. Inside this archive is a .pif file (PE32 executable for MS Windows) > which is detected as Win32.Worm.My

Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-15 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On 2013-10-15 11:54, Dominik George wrote: [Jarkko Palviainen; attribution lost in quoted mail] http://ftp.fi.debian.org/[...] If you suspect an issue with the Debian archive, please test against ftp.debian.org. That's not particularly great advice. ftp.debian.org is just another mirror[tm];

Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-15 Thread Jarkko Palviainen
On 10/15/2013 03:09 PM, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Tuesday 15 October 2013 13:19:38 Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: It isn't a false positive in that regard that the package *does* in fact contain the virus sample. However, it *is* a false positive, as the sample is there intentionally, and no virus scan

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-15 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, October 15, 2013 14:09, Dominique Dumont wrote: > In libmail-deliverystatus-bounceparser-perl case, the virus is used on the > non-regressions test which are shipped in the original tarball (and in > Debian *source* package). This virus is *not* shipped in Debian binary > package. I'm stil

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-15 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Tuesday 15 October 2013 13:19:38 Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > It isn't a false positive in that regard that the package *does* in fact > > contain the virus sample. However, it *is* a false positive, as the > > sample is there intentionally, and no virus scanner can guess the reason > > why it is

Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-15 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, October 15, 2013 12:54, Dominik George wrote: >> I looked into one of these, libmail-deliverystatus-bounceparser- >> perl_1.531.orig.tar.gz, and found multipart email file containing zip >> attachment. Inside this archive is a .pif file (PE32 executable for MS >> Windows) >> which is detect

Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
Pymilter is a false positive. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/fe0156c2-4f46-448c-b585-6323a1778...@email.android.com

Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-15 Thread Dominik George
Hi, I have looked into this a bit. > Some of the source packages were caught on a gateway anti-virus scanner while > downloading. Using a gateway anti-virus scanner for downloads from the Debian archive seems a bit inappropriate, well, paranoid. Checking the signed hashsums would seem a lot bett

Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-15 Thread Jarkko Palviainen
Package: general Severity: normal Some of the source packages were caught on a gateway anti-virus scanner while downloading. These are the exact downloads: http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libm/libmime-explode-perl/libmime- explode-perl_0.39.orig.tar.gz http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/p