Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 01:49:20AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: The maintainer, at some point during a private conversation, even discouraged me to upload to *experimental* a new version of sysklogd fixing the issues I have prepared. That's why they ended up in my p.d.o page (they are

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-25 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 09:52:02PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Actually, from personal experience, bugs are not fixed because the maintainer is against all NMUs, even those that follow the steps described in the sysklogd's source 'debian/NMU-Disclaimer'. The current maintainer's

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-25 Thread Joey Hess
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña quoted: These rules always apply. They even apply if somebody declares NMUs as ok and reduces regular NMU rules to a delay of zero days. Unless I'm on vacation or on a show I am reachable via mail, so there is hardly a reason not to contact me. Hmm, this

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 24 May 2006, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña verbalised: On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 09:52:02PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Actually, from personal experience, bugs are not fixed because the maintainer is against all NMUs, even those that follow the steps described in the sysklogd's source

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Nathanael Nerode] Conclusion -- We should change the default syslogd. There is only one feature I miss in the current sysklogd package, and that is the ability to store the facility and severity in the log file. If we are to switch, please select one where this is possible to

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 23 May 2006, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña said: On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 07:38:10AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: (...) Issues: (1) Quality. sysklogd has 105 open bugs: 3 important (1 with patch), 43 normal (11 with patches), 11 minor (4 with patches), and 19 wishlist (some of which

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Florian Weimer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Nathanael Nerode: (2) Upstream status. There hasn't been a new upstream for sysklogd since 2001. All of the others are active upstream. Have you checked if SuSE's syslog-ng is heavily patched? If it's mostly alright, it's probably a good

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-22 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 07:38:10AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: (...) Issues: (1) Quality. sysklogd has 105 open bugs: 3 important (1 with patch), 43 normal (11 with patches), 11 minor (4 with patches), and 19 wishlist (some of which are really quite important, such as 44523) Please, when

Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-21 Thread Nathanael Nerode
OK, I brought this up a while back. (For some reason I can't seem to find the beginning of the topic, but see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/01/msg00238.html ) I got a few comments in favor. Someone asked what syslog other distros are using. RedHat is still using sysklogd. However,

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-21 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Nathanael Nerode wrote: [snip] The installer can use whatever seems most appropriate (does it even log?): The installer does log and puts the logs at /var/log/debian-installer/ on the successfully installed system. If the installation fails, the logs (in the installer ramdisk) are a valuable

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-21 Thread Florian Weimer
* Nathanael Nerode: (2) Upstream status. There hasn't been a new upstream for sysklogd since 2001. All of the others are active upstream. Have you checked if SuSE's syslog-ng is heavily patched? If it's mostly alright, it's probably a good indicator that syslog-ng is the way to go (and I