Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-07-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 06:45:50PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > On Mon, 2020-06-22 at 17:50 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > there has been a lot of talk recently about how master is a loaded term > > > that should be avoided. > > > If I read the news correctly, github and others are going to

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-07-04 Thread Nicholas D Steeves
Hi Otto, Thank you for providing an alternative voice in this discourse. Otto Kekäläinen writes: > Hello! > > Just my 2 cents: I hope Debian would not rush to any changes here. > Lets just stay neutral for now. The subject seems very US-centric and > there is a risk that it is creating

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-29 Thread David Prévot
Hi, Le 22/06/2020 à 05:50, Michael Biebl a écrit : […] > If we deem that [whatever] is a better term, should we change the defaults > in salsa/gitlab and maybe update DEP-14? FWIW, I’d welcome such change, (almost) whatever name end up being used instead of “master”. If we agree on such change

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-28 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! Just my 2 cents: I hope Debian would not rush to any changes here. Lets just stay neutral for now. The subject seems very US-centric and there is a risk that it is creating division among people forcing them to take sides on issues that previously were not political at all. Here is some

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-24 Thread Daniele Nicolodi
On 24-06-2020 12:56, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Colin Watson dijo [Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 10:13:31PM +0100]: >> I think my ranked preferences are: >> >> 1. devel (for the sorts of reasons smcv@ gave; also, debian/devel is a >> nice allusion to this list) >> 2. trunk (historical familiarity from

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-24 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Colin Watson dijo [Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 10:13:31PM +0100]: > I think my ranked preferences are: > > 1. devel (for the sorts of reasons smcv@ gave; also, debian/devel is a > nice allusion to this list) > 2. trunk (historical familiarity from other VCSes) > 3. main or maybe mainline (some

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-24 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 11:40:47AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Not really. The master/slave metaphor prompted me to think about this > sort of thing more and give it a higher priority, that's all. I still > think we'd be better off using a different name. So use a different metaphor. For git,

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 08:14:37AM +0200, Christian Kastner wrote: > On 2020-06-23 02:12, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 01:10:31AM +0200, Ansgar wrote: > >> On Mon, 2020-06-22 at 22:13 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > >>> [1] > >>>

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-23 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2020-06-23 08:14, Christian Kastner wrote: > If it's not, then it's just about utility, and then honestly I don't see > enough of it to merit the head-ache of breaking with the conventional name. Having thought about that part some more, I realized I need to retract it. I might not see the

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-23 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2020-06-23 02:12, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 01:10:31AM +0200, Ansgar wrote: >> On Mon, 2020-06-22 at 22:13 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: >>> [1] >>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2019-May/msg00066.html >> >> You might be interested in [2] as well.

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 01:10:31AM +0200, Ansgar wrote: > On Mon, 2020-06-22 at 22:13 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > For a while I'd thought that it was relatively harmless in comparison > > to > > full-blown uses of master/slave metaphors, but I saw some analysis of > > the history recently that

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-22 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am Mo., 22. Juni 2020 um 23:30 Uhr schrieb Colin Watson : > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 05:50:02PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > there has been a lot of talk recently about how master is a loaded term > > that should be avoided. > > If I read the news correctly, github and others are going to

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-22 Thread Ansgar
On Mon, 2020-06-22 at 22:13 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > For a while I'd thought that it was relatively harmless in comparison > to > full-blown uses of master/slave metaphors, but I saw some analysis of > the history recently that pointed out that git got it from BitKeeper > which did in fact use

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-22 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 10:13:31PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 05:50:02PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > there has been a lot of talk recently about how master is a loaded term > > that should be avoided. > > If I read the news correctly, github and others are going to

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 05:50:02PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > there has been a lot of talk recently about how master is a loaded term > that should be avoided. > If I read the news correctly, github and others are going to change the > default master branch to main. > I don't really have any

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-22 Thread Oskar Berggren
Den mån 22 juni 2020 kl 20:03 skrev Simon McVittie : > > > On Mon, 2020-06-22 at 17:50 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > there has been a lot of talk recently about how master is a loaded term > > > that should be avoided. > > > If I read the news correctly, github and others are going to change

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-22 Thread Simon McVittie
> On Mon, 2020-06-22 at 17:50 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > there has been a lot of talk recently about how master is a loaded term > > that should be avoided. > > If I read the news correctly, github and others are going to change the > > default master branch to main. > > I don't really have

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-22 Thread Gard Spreemann
Michael Biebl writes: > there has been a lot of talk recently about how master is a loaded term > that should be avoided. > If I read the news correctly, github and others are going to change the > default master branch to main. > I don't really have any strong opinion on that matter myself. >

Re: DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-22 Thread Markus Frosch
On Mon, 2020-06-22 at 17:50 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > there has been a lot of talk recently about how master is a loaded term > that should be avoided. > If I read the news correctly, github and others are going to change the > default master branch to main. > I don't really have any strong

DEP-14: renaming master to main?

2020-06-22 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi, there has been a lot of talk recently about how master is a loaded term that should be avoided. If I read the news correctly, github and others are going to change the default master branch to main. I don't really have any strong opinion on that matter myself. That said, what I care about is