Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Brian White
However now that I *have* done what I should have done two years ago and familiarized myself with the license, I think that there is a significant problem with the ncurses license as it stands---in that it does not guarantee anyone the right to distribute modified versions. Without

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Jim Pick
Brian White wrote: I agree with you on this. I personally believe that Debian should relax this requirement about non-modifiable redistributable code not being suitable for the primary distribution. I've never seen how it helps any cause other than sticking a finger in the eye of those who

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Bruce Perens
I agree with you on this. I personally believe that Debian should relax this requirement about non-modifiable redistributable code not being suitable for the primary distribution. I've never seen how it helps any cause other than sticking a finger in the eye of those who might like to keep

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Daniel Quinlan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with you on this. I personally believe that Debian should relax this requirement about non-modifiable redistributable code not being suitable for the primary distribution. I've never seen how it helps any

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Tomislav Vujec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: I agree with you on this. I personally believe that Debian should relax this requirement about non-modifiable redistributable code not being suitable for the primary distribution. I've never seen how it helps any cause other than sticking a

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Tomislav Vujec [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, do we realy distribute modified versions? We distribute modified binary files. I've asked for an explicit permission in the ncurses license that is something like paragraph 1 in our free software guidelines, and Eric seems to be agreeable with that.

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Brian White
I agree with you on this. I personally believe that Debian should relax this requirement about non-modifiable redistributable code not being suitable for the primary distribution. I've never seen how it helps any cause other than sticking a finger in the eye of those who might like to

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] That depends on how you look at it. If the author does not do significant maintenence or has abandoned the package then this is true. What if the author doesn't want you to do ports? We have one case of this already. We also have some cases of author

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Brian White
That depends on how you look at it. If the author does not do significant maintenence or has abandoned the package then this is true. What if the author doesn't want you to do ports? We have one case of this already. We also have some cases of author rudely dropped dead without first

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] But your promise in not the point. The author wants this promise from everybody. It's the best way to be assured that improvements get distributed to everyone and not just a select group. Well, it's fine for the author to _require_ that modifications in

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Jim Pick
Well, it's fine for the author to _require_ that modifications in the program be returned to the author. It's just not acceptable for the author to not allow modifications to be distributed. I don't think we should accept licenses that require modifications to be returned to the author, or

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What if the author doesn't want you to do ports? We have one case of this already. We also have some cases of author rudely dropped dead without first changing the copyright. This is a problem, I admit. What does the law say about copyrighted works

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Bruce Perens
Regarding the assignment of copyright, I took that out of the draft document. I think that every good license should include the provision that modifications must have the same license as the original software, not a more restrictive license, applied to them. The GPL includes something like this,

Re: Debian's Modify Redistribute Policy (was: the ncurses brushfire)

1997-06-04 Thread Jim Pick
Regarding the assignment of copyright, I took that out of the draft document. Yay! I knew you were a good guy! :-) Cheers, - Jim pgptBXGtMKzg2.pgp Description: PGP signature