Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-30 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On 4/23/07, Warren Turkal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Monday 23 April 2007 12:58, Alan Ezust wrote: > let's say you need to build from source a program such as "gimp" which has > many library dependencies. You don't know what they are, and you want > debian to auto-install the -dev packages you

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-23 Thread Warren Turkal
On Monday 23 April 2007 12:58, Alan Ezust wrote: > let's say you need to build from source a program such as "gimp" which has > many library dependencies. You don't know what they are, and you want > debian to auto-install the -dev packages you need. apt-get build-dep is > your friend. Speaking of

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-23 Thread Alan Ezust
let's say you need to build from source a program such as "gimp" which has many library dependencies. You don't know what they are, and you want debian to auto-install the -dev packages you need. apt-get build-dep is your friend. /etc/apt [EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-get build-dep gimp Reading package l

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 13 avril 2007 à 20:35 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > Do you know devhelp? > > This is a good documentation tool, if used. > If is there going to be development tasks, Maintainer docs should go > there, so the developper has all documentation in one place, and easilly > searchable. apt-

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-13 Thread Luis Matos
Please CC the debian-devel list. Sex, 2007-04-13 às 18:26 +0300, costin c escreveu: > On 4/13/07, Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sex, 2007-04-13 às 14:47 +0300, costin c escreveu: > > > May be some informations or tips about how to build a particular > > > package from maintainers/devel

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-13 Thread Luis Matos
Sex, 2007-04-13 às 14:47 +0300, costin c escreveu: > May be some informations or tips about how to build a particular > package from maintainers/developers of that package could help new > maintainers who want to learn how to build/debug packages in > generally. for taht you have: - new maintaine

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Luis Matos
Qui, 2007-04-12 às 20:40 +0200, Andrea Bolognani escreveu: > On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:27:25 +0200 > Julien Cristau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 20:25:35 +0200, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > > > > > Still I don't see the advantage of having a complete development > > > environ

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:27:25 +0200 Julien Cristau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 20:25:35 +0200, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > > > Still I don't see the advantage of having a complete development > > environment on a live CD. Who is supposed to use this? > > > Students, who typic

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 20:25:35 +0200, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > Still I don't see the advantage of having a complete development > environment on a live CD. Who is supposed to use this? > Students, who typically only have a windows install at home. It's much easier (for them and for the teache

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:18:27 +0200 Pierre THIERRY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think a live CD aimed at developers would be quite useless. But > > feel free to correct me. > > The Université Jussieu (Paris) found it useful. They distribute a live > CD based on Knoppix to the students, called

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Andrea Bolognani dies 12/04/2007 hora 18:01: > I think a live CD aimed at developers would be quite useless. But > feel free to correct me. The Université Jussieu (Paris) found it useful. They distribute a live CD based on Knoppix to the students, called Juppix: http://www.pps.jussieu.fr

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:28:50 +0100 Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since this inquiry is valid however, it seems to me that it would make > > sense the think about some CDD specialised for developers. > > This would be very nice ... maybe some livecd's? ( it does not need > necessarilly

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Thursday 12 April 2007 11:03, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > Since this inquiry is valid however, it seems to me that it would make > sense the think about some CDD specialised for developers. I recently heard about this "Debian sid" thingy, maybe you give it a try? Seriously, I dont understan

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Luis Matos
Qui, 2007-04-12 às 14:39 +0200, Josselin Mouette escreveu: > Le jeudi 12 avril 2007 à 14:25 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > > gnome-devel has what? anjuta, devhelp, glade and ... > > ... and gnome-core-devel. you killed me ... true, it has the -dev packages. do you agree with the previous post ab

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Luis Matos
Qui, 2007-04-12 às 09:37 -0300, André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira escreveu: > > 2007/4/12, Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Qui, 2007-04-12 às 09:53 +0200, Josselin Mouette escreveu: > > Le mercredi 11 avril 2007 à 23:20 +0100, Luis Matos a > écrit : > > > Tasksel has

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 12 avril 2007 à 14:25 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > gnome-devel has what? anjuta, devhelp, glade and ... ... and gnome-core-devel. > i see for example > that it has no -dev dependency ... so ... how are people going to > compile stuff against gnome/gtk/linux libraries? They are only > r

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira
2007/4/12, Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Qui, 2007-04-12 às 09:53 +0200, Josselin Mouette escreveu: > Le mercredi 11 avril 2007 à 23:20 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > > Tasksel has no devel task. > > > > There are no development environments for example: C/gtk, C#/GTK, > > Java/Gtk, python/gtk

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Luis Matos
Qui, 2007-04-12 às 10:58 +0200, Gabor Gombas escreveu: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 12:57:09AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > I don't think "beginner" and "developer" belong in the same sentence. > > Yes they do. I met people who develop commercial software but who are > completely ignorant about

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Luis Matos
Qui, 2007-04-12 às 11:03 +0200, Reinhard Tartler escreveu: > Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> i don't mean all the debug and etc stuff... But the a beginner > >> environment for people to start to use and learn about linux > >> development. > > > > I don't think "beginner" and "dev

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Luis Matos
Qui, 2007-04-12 às 09:53 +0200, Josselin Mouette escreveu: > Le mercredi 11 avril 2007 à 23:20 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > > Tasksel has no devel task. > > > > There are no development environments for example: C/gtk, C#/GTK, > > Java/Gtk, python/gtk pre-defined. > > apt-get install gnome-devel

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> i don't mean all the debug and etc stuff... But the a beginner >> environment for people to start to use and learn about linux >> development. > > I don't think "beginner" and "developer" belong in the same sentence. At least for debian, this seems to

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 12:57:09AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > I don't think "beginner" and "developer" belong in the same sentence. Yes they do. I met people who develop commercial software but who are completely ignorant about any system administration tasks. They're not the people who use co

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 11 avril 2007 à 23:20 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > Tasksel has no devel task. > > There are no development environments for example: C/gtk, C#/GTK, > Java/Gtk, python/gtk pre-defined. apt-get install gnome-devel -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-11 Thread Xavier Oswald
On 23:20 Wed 11 Apr , Luis Matos wrote: > There are no development environments for example: C/gtk, C#/GTK, > Java/Gtk, python/gtk pre-defined. > > Environments where developpers can simply install and start working. > > There is no standard IDE (ok, i know mono for gtk#, bluefish for web > s

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-11 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Luis Matos wrote: > I think debian has some closed doors on developpers that come from > windows. You have complete freedom to apt-get install whatever package you need. > Tasksel has no devel task. > > There are no development environments for example: C/gtk, C#/GTK, > Java

Debian Development environments.

2007-04-11 Thread Luis Matos
Qua, 2007-04-11 às 22:56 +0200, Michael Banck escreveu: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:01:09PM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > > Visual Studio makes the job for non-professional programmers a pretty > > good job. > > Please remember that this is debian-devel and not some general > discussion forum. Ple