Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-07 Thread Eduard Bloch
Moin Thiemo! Thiemo Seufer schrieb am Sonntag, den 06. Februar 2005: > > Archive bloat is still a problem, though. > > Not if mirror admins can select if they want to mirror -dbg. > This means: -dbg must be a separate archive. Agreed. And (where it make sense) we should also move static librarie

Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-06 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 08:52:28AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > > My feeling for some time has been that we should introduce a separate > > section in the archive, or a separate archive and come up with the > > infrastructure to upload -dbg packages to there, with separat

Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-06 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 08:52:28AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: > My feeling for some time has been that we should introduce a separate > section in the archive, or a separate archive and come up with the > infrastructure to upload -dbg packages to there, with separated > debugging symbols in them (see

Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Josselin Mouette wrote: >> The most obvious solution I can come up for this issue is to build a >> separate tree with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="noopt nostrip", at least for i386. >> That means having a dedicated machine that would be used to run a buildd >> for tha

Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-06 Thread Joey Hess
Josselin Mouette wrote: > The most obvious solution I can come up for this issue is to build a > separate tree with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="noopt nostrip", at least for i386. > That means having a dedicated machine that would be used to run a buildd > for that. Unfortunately, I don't have such a machine

Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-06 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 01:14:09AM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > (Aha: the strip tool mentioned is in elfutils, which is non-free. > Blah.) objcopy(1): --only-keep-debug Strip a file, removing any sections that would be stripped by --strip-debug and leaving the debugging s

Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-06 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 01:14:09AM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 10:33:53PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote: > > It was brought up on IRC, a couple of weeks ago (my apologies, but I don't > > recall who brought it up, nor do I have a log) that it is now possible > > to strip debugg

Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 05 février 2005 à 22:33 -0700, Joel Aelwyn a écrit : > It was brought up on IRC, a couple of weeks ago (my apologies, but I don't > recall who brought it up, nor do I have a log) that it is now possible > to strip debugging information from a binary or library, and keep the > debugging in

Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-06 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 22:33:53 -0700, Joel Aelwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >1) It would become possible (I'm not sure if it would be *sane*) to >include debugging information for all binaries and libraries in a fairly >straightforward manner - and one which could target a directory that, like >/usr/

Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-06 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El dom, 06-02-2005 a las 01:14 -0500, Glenn Maynard escribiÃ: > On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 10:33:53PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote: > > It was brought up on IRC, a couple of weeks ago (my apologies, but I don't > > recall who brought it up, nor do I have a log) that it is now possible > > to strip debuggi

Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-05 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 10:33:53PM -0700, Joel Aelwyn wrote: > It was brought up on IRC, a couple of weeks ago (my apologies, but I don't > recall who brought it up, nor do I have a log) that it is now possible > to strip debugging information from a binary or library, and keep the > debugging info

Re: Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-05 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 12:36:55AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > With the increasing numbers of libraries, especially libraries in > development, we have an increasing number of -dbg packages in the > archive. As they are useful only for debugging, and not for the average > user, I think they ar

Debug packages cluttering the archive

2005-02-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
With the increasing numbers of libraries, especially libraries in development, we have an increasing number of -dbg packages in the archive. As they are useful only for debugging, and not for the average user, I think they are mostly cluttering the Packages file and mirror space. Practically speak