Re: Bug#642801: ftp.debian.org: Please support dpkg-source format 3.0 (git) in our archive.

2012-05-18 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, May 19, 2012 at 11:56:07AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > In the case of the initial copryight review, which is if I understand well the > strongest objection, wouldn't it be solved if the first upload to Debian would > contain as few history as possible ? Then the quantity of histor

Re: How mature is Pkg-format 3.0 (git), yet?

2012-01-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Thijs Kinkhorst" writes: > On Mon, January 16, 2012 23:26, Paul Wise wrote: >>> I just wanted to ask how mature Package-format 3.0 (git) became until >>> now. >> >> It is not currently accepted by the Debian archive: >> >> http://bugs.deb

Re: How mature is Pkg-format 3.0 (git), yet?

2012-01-17 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, January 16, 2012 23:26, Paul Wise wrote: >> I just wanted to ask how mature Package-format 3.0 (git) became until >> now. > > It is not currently accepted by the Debian archive: > > http://bugs.debian.org/642801 My experience until now is that it's mature

Re: How mature is Pkg-format 3.0 (git), yet?

2012-01-16 Thread Paul Wise
2012/1/17 Björn Esser: > I just wanted to ask how mature Package-format 3.0 (git) became until now. It is not currently accepted by the Debian archive: http://bugs.debian.org/642801 -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-r

How mature is Pkg-format 3.0 (git), yet?

2012-01-16 Thread Björn Esser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi there! I just wanted to ask how mature Package-format 3.0 (git) became until now. BR, Björn. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

Bug#642801: ftp.debian.org: Please support dpkg-source format 3.0 (git) in our archive.

2011-09-24 Thread Charles Plessy
Package: ftp.debian.org Severity: wishlist Dear FTP team, There are now 4,921 source packages maintained in Git repositories (http://upsilon.cc/~zack/stuff/vcs-usage/), and for some of them the dpkg-source format 3.0 (git), for which support is available in Squeeze, would be natural and

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Steve Langasek | > Given I maintain my packages in git, it's quite clear that the preferred | > form for modification of my packages is through git and not debian | > source packages. That we don't have a good way of distributing the | > source of packages is a fault I think we should address

Re: Format 3.0 (git) (was: Re: single-debian-patch (was Re: Bits from dpkg developers - dpkg 1.16.1))

2011-09-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011, Charles Plessy wrote: > If in a large number of cases where one would like to turn off the patch > system > of the 3.0 (quilt) format, the source package is stored in a Git repository, > then one way to move forward would be to make the format 3.0 (git) available

Re: Format 3.0 (git) (was: Re: single-debian-patch (was Re: Bits from dpkg developers - dpkg 1.16.1))

2011-09-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > If in a large number of cases where one would like to turn off the patch > system > of the 3.0 (quilt) format, the source package is stored in a Git repository, > then one way to move forward would be to make the format 3.0 (gi

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Joey Hess
Bernhard R. Link wrote: > - Debian is about freedom. > - Debian is about giving back. Well! It's very interesting to have work that I have done, in the vain hope of somehow finding another way to make Debian better, elicit push-back like this. I suppose this will influence me some way or other, ca

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] "Bernhard R. Link" | * Tollef Fog Heen [110924 16:16]: | > I find reviewing what's changed between two arbitrary versions in git | > much easier than doing the same with debian source packages, so I think | > it's pretty clear this is a matter of preference. | | But if it is some other versi

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 04:16:21PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | - Debian is about freedom. Freedom in software is about about enabling > | people to "scratch their itch", to modify the software to suite their > | need and what they consider best for them. > Yes, and to continue that threa

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Michael Gilbert
Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Michael Gilbert [110924 20:24]: > > Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > > > > * Tollef Fog Heen [110924 16:16]: > > > > I find reviewing what's changed between two arbitrary versions in git > > > > much easier than doing the same with debian source packages, so I think > > >

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Michael Gilbert [110924 20:24]: > Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > > * Tollef Fog Heen [110924 16:16]: > > > I find reviewing what's changed between two arbitrary versions in git > > > much easier than doing the same with debian source packages, so I think > > > it's pretty clear this is a matter of

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Michael Gilbert
Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Tollef Fog Heen [110924 16:16]: > > I find reviewing what's changed between two arbitrary versions in git > > much easier than doing the same with debian source packages, so I think > > it's pretty clear this is a matter of preference. > > But if it is some other vers

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Tollef Fog Heen [110924 16:16]: > I find reviewing what's changed between two arbitrary versions in git > much easier than doing the same with debian source packages, so I think > it's pretty clear this is a matter of preference. But if it is some other version control system, which is easier t

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Timo Juhani Lindfors [110924 12:17]: > I always just alien --to-tgz the SRPM and then I see each patch as a > separate file. Ever tried to install rpm on a system you do not have root on? Bernhard R. Link -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Re: Format 3.0 (git)"): > I don't put much weight on the «it should be simple to hack on packages > and VCSes make it hard» argument. IME, there are many more people who > know how to drive git than there are people who know how to usefully &

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] "Bernhard R. Link" | * Charles Plessy [110924 08:30]: | > If in a large number of cases where one would like to turn off the patch system | > of the 3.0 (quilt) format, the source package is stored in a Git repository, | > then one way to move forward would be to make

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi Bernhard. If I may briefly summarise your objections against the source format 3.0 (git): 1) It increases the risk of distributing non-free files. 2) It reduces our user's freedom to modify the software we redistribute, because they may not be comfortable with git. 3) Compared t

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
"Bernhard R. Link" writes: > It has been better at that than rpm where you always look for > another perl script in the net that is able to make a cpio out of > that version of source rpm you run into, so you can actually look at > what they do. I always just alien --to-tgz the SRPM and t

Re: Format 3.0 (git)

2011-09-24 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Charles Plessy [110924 08:30]: > If in a large number of cases where one would like to turn off the patch > system > of the 3.0 (quilt) format, the source package is stored in a Git repository, > then one way to move forward would be to make the format 3.0 (git) available > i

Format 3.0 (git) (was: Re: single-debian-patch (was Re: Bits from dpkg developers - dpkg 1.16.1))

2011-09-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Hello everybody, If in a large number of cases where one would like to turn off the patch system of the 3.0 (quilt) format, the source package is stored in a Git repository, then one way to move forward would be to make the format 3.0 (git) available in Debian. What are the blocking points

Re: Source format 3.0 (git) ?

2011-05-30 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Hello everybody, > > in echo to Raphaël's question about the use of a VCS together with the 3.0 > (quilt) format, I was just wondering, what is needed to have 3.0 (git) > acceptable in Debian, and how can we solve this ? IIRC, there was a B

Source format 3.0 (git) ?

2011-05-30 Thread Charles Plessy
Hello everybody, in echo to Raphaël's question about the use of a VCS together with the 3.0 (quilt) format, I was just wondering, what is needed to have 3.0 (git) acceptable in Debian, and how can we solve this ? Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: dpkg source format 3.0 (git)

2010-02-16 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Jonathan Nieder wrote: > For usability: I imagine what is typically needed is the set of Vcs-Git > fields somewhere conveniently machine-readable, so one could just go > > apt-get source --git whatever > > and get a checkout of its packaging repository. ... which is what debcheckout provi

Re: dpkg source format 3.0 (git)

2010-02-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jonathan Nieder writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> 1) Think about doing this for linux-2.6, XOrg or OOo and what it would >> mean for the source size or usability. > > Indeed, the history is pretty large. A rough estimate (for something > less rough, one should use a well packed bundle w

Re: dpkg source format 3.0 (git)

2010-02-09 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > 1) Think about doing this for linux-2.6, XOrg or OOo and what it would > mean for the source size or usability. Indeed, the history is pretty large. A rough estimate (for something less rough, one should use a well packed bundle with only the objects of interest):

Re: dpkg source format 3.0 (git)

2010-02-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jonathan Nieder writes: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > >> Given the size of the .git dir when you're not using something like stgit >> and have all objects properly packed, one could even consider shipping .git >> inside the package if it is small enough. >> >> Is that a proper way to do

dpkg source format 3.0 (git)

2010-02-06 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Given the size of the .git dir when you're not using something like stgit > and have all objects properly packed, one could even consider shipping .git > inside the package if it is small enough. > > Is that a proper way to do this? Or would we need a new 3.0