Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2020-01-09 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi! On 06.01.20 19:56, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Mon, 06 Jan 2020, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: >>> On 28.12.19 18:16, Alexander Wirt wrote: >> >From your replies to emails in this thread I was wondering: do you mean >> that the Salsa team does not need, or does not want, help? Or does not >> need, or

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2020-01-06 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Mon, 06 Jan 2020, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: > Hi formorer, > > > On 28.12.19 18:16, Alexander Wirt wrote: > >> On Thu, 26 Dec 2019, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > >> I am sure there are many ways to help the team and it is not just > >> about Salsa/Gitlab admin stuff, but also about creating structure in

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2020-01-06 Thread Ulrike Uhlig
Hi formorer, > On 28.12.19 18:16, Alexander Wirt wrote: >> On Thu, 26 Dec 2019, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: >> I am sure there are many ways to help the team and it is not just >> about Salsa/Gitlab admin stuff, but also about creating structure in >> the team, triaging issues, spreading best

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2020-01-06 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Mon, 06 Jan 2020, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Alexander" == Alexander Wirt writes: > > Alexander> For everything else: we are working on it. > > I just want to confirm that part of the things that you are working on > is documenting the issues. At a number of points you've talked

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2020-01-06 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Alexander" == Alexander Wirt writes: Alexander> For everything else: we are working on it. I just want to confirm that part of the things that you are working on is documenting the issues. At a number of points you've talked about how people are misunderstanding the issues or are

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2020-01-06 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Wed, 01 Jan 2020, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Hello! > > ti 31. jouluk. 2019 klo 14.55 Alexander Wirt (formo...@debian.org) kirjoitti: > > On Mon, 30 Dec 2019, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > > Also, if resources are an issue: I've offered several times to see if I > > > can get some k8s resources for

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2020-01-01 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! ti 31. jouluk. 2019 klo 14.55 Alexander Wirt (formo...@debian.org) kirjoitti: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2019, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > Also, if resources are an issue: I've offered several times to see if I > > can get some k8s resources for gitlab runners, but never got a reply. > > Not even a no.

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2019-12-31 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > > On 12/30/19 11:29 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > I don't think that salsa-ci is particularly problematic in terms of > > "efficiency". With the exception of the LXC usage, there's not much > > that can be "cut" to save resources. > > Also, if

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2019-12-30 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 12/30/19 11:29 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > I don't think that salsa-ci is particularly problematic in terms of > "efficiency". With the exception of the LXC usage, there's not much > that can be "cut" to save resources. Also, if resources are an issue: I've offered several times to see if

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2019-12-30 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sat, 28 Dec 2019, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2019, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > I've seen many times before statements like these so I'd like to raise > > > some discussion around the topic: > > > > > > pe

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2019-12-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Thu, 26 Dec 2019, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > I've seen many times before statements like these so I'd like to raise > > some discussion around the topic: > > > > pe 13. syysk. 2019 klo 16.36 Bastian Blank (wa...@debian.org)

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2019-12-28 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Thu, 26 Dec 2019, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Hello! > > I've seen many times before statements like these so I'd like to raise > some discussion around the topic: > > pe 13. syysk. 2019 klo 16.36 Bastian Blank (wa...@debian.org) kirjoitti: > > On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 05:35:10PM -0400, Sam

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2019-12-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 26 Dec 2019, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > I am sure there are many ways to help the team and it is not just > about Salsa/Gitlab admin stuff, but also about creating structure in > the team, triaging issues, spreading best practices for users and > helping the most advanced users to grow into

Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2019-12-26 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! I've seen many times before statements like these so I'd like to raise some discussion around the topic: pe 13. syysk. 2019 klo 16.36 Bastian Blank (wa...@debian.org) kirjoitti: > On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 05:35:10PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > The Salsa CA pipeline is recommended. > >