Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 12:56:11AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > I think you are being hypocritical. You complain when other people > post their opinions and discussions of this topic with you, yet you > post your own diatribes here. Since your request to keep the > discussion to private email seem

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Branden Robinson writes ("Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist."): > I see no reason not to reply [...] I think you are being hypocritical. You complain when other people post their opinions and discussions of this topic with you, yet you post your own d

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-02 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:08:53PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone > > > else to listen. > > > > Then this prin

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 03:20:00PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > If you really want the topic only to continue in email I suggest that > you abide by that yourself ! If you continue to post these kinds of > heated messages on -devel you can hardly complain when people respond. It's a matter of degr

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Branden Robinson writes ("Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist."): > Sending me mails -- with whatever content -- and discarding my replies > regardless of their content is nothing short of harassment. [further polemic] > I reiterate, iwj and I are

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 02:09:45AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Then that is what you do every time you reject an incoming mail message > having to do with project business. you know, you have a point there - if i wanted to redefine reality into some bizarre idiosyncratic perception of it then

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 03:11:27PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:08:53PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone > > > else to listen. >

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:08:53PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone > > else to listen. > > Then this principle must apply universally. I reserve the right to

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:00:35PM +0100, Diana Galletly wrote: > Yes, sure we could get other addresses that don't use SAUCE, but > some of them might use DUL or some such, and then Joseph would be > ranting ... Well, everything has consequences. Sysadmins have the right to employ DUL. People on

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone > else to listen. Then this principle must apply universally. I reserve the right to ignore bug reports for any reason I choose, then. -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 09:53:06AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > Your complaint against us using the DUL is valid. It should not be > used. Your complaint against IWJ is not, and your complain/threat > against Debian even less so since we are not doing that. I'm making no threat. I reserve the r

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-31 Thread John Goerzen
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you don't correct this at once I will be forced to re-evaluate my place > within a project that is nominally devoted to free and open communication > among > its members and the rest of the world. Your complaint against us using the DUL is valid.

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-31 Thread Diana Galletly
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone > > else to listen. > > I think Branden's whole point was that he doesn't like to be forced to > listen to someth

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-31 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:43:27AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > why? it's his mail server, he can do what he likes with it. he is > entitled to reject or defer mail delivery to his system for any reason > he chooses, regardless of

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-31 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:43:27AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > I'm fighting with iwj about this in private mail, and won't trouble > the lists further about it at this time. > > I do have a better idea of what's going on now, but I still feel his > MTA is presuming my box guilty of spam genera

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-31 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 11:32:49AM +0100, Stephen Early wrote: > All of the recent discussion about various blacklists, dial-up user > lists, etc. seems to have frayed people's tempers. I see a lot of > messages from angry people, with little useful content. I suggest > everyone takes a step back a

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Branden Robinson writes ("Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist."): > Mar 29 15:20:15 apocalypse sendmail[7886]: e2T8qEi03048: [EMAIL PROTECTED], > ctladdr=branden (1000/1000), delay=11:28:01, xdelay=00:00:21, mailer=esmtp, > pri=6332789, relay=chi

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-30 Thread Stephen Early
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: > Mar 29 15:20:15 apocalypse sendmail[7886]: e2T8qEi03048: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > .greenend.org.uk, ctladdr=branden (1000/1000), delay=11:28:01, xdelay > =00:00:21, mailer=esmtp, pri=6332789, relay=chiark.greenend.org.uk. > [195.224.76.132], dsn=4.2.0, st

Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-29 Thread Branden Robinson
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