Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org writes: * Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de, 2010-09-11, 19:46: Because you are a reportbug novice. Novices are not allowed to play with severity of bugs. :) I consider this a horrible misfeature of reportbug. Yes, we need RC bugs from novices, too. --

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-14 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de, 2010-09-11, 19:46: Because you are a reportbug novice. Novices are not allowed to play with severity of bugs. :) I consider this a horrible misfeature of reportbug. Yes, we need RC bugs from novices, too. -- Jakub Wilk signature.asc Description:

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-13 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 07:46:34PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: but reportbug did not let me specify either of RC / critical / grave / serious / security ... Because you are a reportbug novice. Or at least reportbug thinks so =:- But thanks anyway ;-) Karsten -- GPG key ID

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Karsten Hilbert karsten.hilb...@gmx.net writes: On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 12:38:05PM +0200, Michael Tautschnig wrote: Here comes the bug: GNUmed will, given appropriate circumstances, OVERWRITE the first allergy against Sugar. ... You die in hospital because of a second

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-10 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi, Le 09/09/10 21:40, Andreas Tille a écrit : On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 04:11:50PM +0200, Thibaut Paumard wrote: And please, make all possible effort to warn your users about the potential risk of using or having used the buggy version. And even if it's only I'm not sure, but it may well be

Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, with GNUmed we currently have a case where a bug is not RC regarding the computer system and would not match our criterion of RC bugs. However, the influence of this bug might harm the health of patients of the doctor who might use this version of GNUmed. If needed upstream will give some

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:40:49 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: with GNUmed we currently have a case where a bug is not RC regarding the computer system and would not match our criterion of RC bugs. However, the influence of this bug might harm the health of patients of the doctor who might use

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 11:40:49AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: with GNUmed we currently have a case where a bug is not RC regarding the computer system and would not match our criterion of RC bugs. However, the influence of this bug might harm the health of patients of the doctor who might

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:58, gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org wrote: On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:40:49 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: with GNUmed we currently have a case where a bug is not RC regarding the computer system and would not match our criterion of RC bugs.  However, the influence of

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Michael Tautschnig
[...] Here comes the bug: GNUmed will, given appropriate circumstances, OVERWRITE the first allergy against Sugar. Three years later, Debian 10 has been released and you return because of FatigueFromPackaging. I prescribe Sugar, which usually helps against

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Thu Sep 09 12:03, Karsten Hilbert wrote: Here comes the bug: GNUmed will, given appropriate circumstances, OVERWRITE the first allergy against Sugar. Sounds like grave: , or causes data loss, ... to me, which is RC. I was also going to suggest it could be considered a

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 09.09.2010 11:58, gregor herrmann wrote: On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:40:49 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: with GNUmed we currently have a case where a bug is not RC regarding the computer system and would not match our criterion of RC bugs. However, the influence of this bug might harm the health

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 12:38:05PM +0200, Michael Tautschnig wrote: Here comes the bug: GNUmed will, given appropriate circumstances, OVERWRITE the first allergy against Sugar. ... You die in hospital because of a second anaphylactic reaction to Sugar. [...] Although I do

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Carsten Hey
* Karsten Hilbert [2010-09-09 13:07 +0200]: Filed a bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=596219 but reportbug did not let me specify either of RC / critical / grave / serious / security ... I just set this to serious. It may take some minutes until the BTS is updated

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Ben Finney
Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu writes: with GNUmed we currently have a case where a bug is not RC regarding the computer system and would not match our criterion of RC bugs. Rather than RC (which is only about whether the severity of the bug is sufficient to delay the release of Debian), what

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 14:34, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au wrote: Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu writes: with GNUmed we currently have a case where a bug is not RC regarding the computer system and would not match our criterion of RC bugs. Rather than RC (which is only about whether

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 10:34:09PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: From your description, I'd guess one of ???causes serious data loss??? (??? ???critical???) Strictly speaking I do not really regard the problem in #596219 as a data loss - the available data are just not properly handled which can

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Thu Sep 09 14:42, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Rather than RC (which is only about whether the severity of the bug is sufficient to delay the release of Debian), what is the severity of the bug? AFAIK, this is not the sort of package that would delay Debian's release. At worst it would

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Jon Dowland
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Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi guys, This thread is just surrealistic. Le 09/09/10 15:17, Andreas Tille a écrit : On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 10:34:09PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: From your description, I'd guess one of ???causes serious data loss??? (??? ???critical???) Strictly speaking I do not really regard the

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 09/09/2010 16:11, Thibaut Paumard wrote: You have a bug that could potentially kill people? Fix it, upload ASAP and contact the security and release teams. And I don't care if it's not the normal procedure and if it can piss off people, it's not nearly as important as Doing What You

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 04:43:53PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Right. I was wondering why Andreas didn't contact the Release Team to have our opinion on the subject. IMO, it qualifies as an RC bug and the diff (0.7.8 ??? 0.7.9) doesn't look huge. It's even reasonable and acceptable, once

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 09/09/2010 08:38 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 04:43:53PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Right. I was wondering why Andreas didn't contact the Release Team to have our opinion on the subject. IMO, it qualifies as an RC bug and the diff (0.7.8 ??? 0.7.9) doesn't look huge.

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 04:11:50PM +0200, Thibaut Paumard wrote: And please, make all possible effort to warn your users about the potential risk of using or having used the buggy version. And even if it's only I'm not sure, but it may well be serious enough to KILL PEOPLE, bloody hell, why