Re: Let's restart from scratch the gr_lenny vote (in a better form this time)?

2008-12-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 06:07:43PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > Rank "Further discussion" first. That's our best way to say "I think > > this vote is wrong". > But that will delay even further Lenny release; I think that a simple > vote like the one dato proposed is what is needed to let us move >

Re: Let's restart from scratch the gr_lenny vote (in a better form this time)?

2008-12-18 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Sandro Tosi [081218 20:51]: > ehm? what? how is it un-democratic to have different votes for > different things, targetted exactly to decide where something is > allowed or not? Then do different votes for different things. And put together what belongs together. But just having a "wait foreve

Re: Let's restart from scratch the gr_lenny vote (in a better form this time)?

2008-12-18 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 20:33, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Sandro Tosi [081218 18:11]: >> But that will delay even further Lenny release; > > Hey! You suggested to redo something. Thus you are suggesting to delay. But maybe with the aim of a better target? >> I think that a simple >> vote like

Re: Let's restart from scratch the gr_lenny vote (in a better form this time)?

2008-12-18 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Sandro Tosi [081218 18:11]: > But that will delay even further Lenny release; Hey! You suggested to redo something. Thus you are suggesting to delay. > I think that a simple > vote like the one dato proposed is what is needed to let us move > forward a release. Please note that changing the v

Re: Let's restart from scratch the gr_lenny vote (in a better form this time)?

2008-12-18 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi Gunnar, On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 17:38, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Sandro Tosi dijo [Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:22:40PM +0100]: >> Hello, >> I've started a new thread because follow 2 very long thread starts >> being a little tedious. >> >> This voice is coming out more and more strong lately: why don't

Re: Let's restart from scratch the gr_lenny vote (in a better form this time)?

2008-12-18 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Sandro Tosi dijo [Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:22:40PM +0100]: > Hello, > I've started a new thread because follow 2 very long thread starts > being a little tedious. > > This voice is coming out more and more strong lately: why don't we > simply delete the current gr_lenny and start another ballot, on

Re: Let's restart from scratch the gr_lenny vote (in a better form this time)?

2008-12-18 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 02:59:52PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > Do we have any well-defined procedure to stop/cancel a GR (in progress)? If > not, > is it the DPL to decide, based on what is voiced on this list? Shouldn't > people > just say "Further discussion" in their votes to express s

Re: Let's restart from scratch the gr_lenny vote (in a better form this time)?

2008-12-18 Thread Michael Tautschnig
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:22:40PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > > So, how many are in favor of redo *completely* the vote (in more > > ballot, the first being the one for lenny ONLY)? how many should we be > > to let it happen? how many should be in contrary to stop this re-vote? > > how can we

Re: Let's restart from scratch the gr_lenny vote (in a better form this time)?

2008-12-18 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:22:40PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote: > So, how many are in favor of redo *completely* the vote (in more > ballot, the first being the one for lenny ONLY)? how many should we be > to let it happen? how many should be in contrary to stop this re-vote? > how can we express the

Let's restart from scratch the gr_lenny vote (in a better form this time)?

2008-12-18 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hello, I've started a new thread because follow 2 very long thread starts being a little tedious. This voice is coming out more and more strong lately: why don't we simply delete the current gr_lenny and start another ballot, only focusing on the *real* lenny release? All other options must go int