Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-24 Thread James A. Treacy
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 01:42:30PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 11:44:06PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > > We shouldn't license our logo by any license that does not comply > > > with the DFSG. To do so would be hypocritical. > > James A.

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-24 Thread Raul Miller
r of people talking past each other. One group > want a logo with a relatively free license for uses such as web pages. > This is perfectly reasonable. Agreed. > Another group of people are interested in a logo which is used for > advertising products with the Debian name on

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-24 Thread Jonathan P Tomer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- is the name debian a registered trademark? if it is, wouldn't it be sensible to do the same for the logo? - --p. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNqt2MUJhnFR90XSjAQHeFAf9EULUklt0QfjI2DAbrPK2

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-24 Thread Buddha Buck
> On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 11:44:06PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > We shouldn't license our logo by any license that does not comply with the > > DFSG. To do so would be hypocritical. > > > Not true. It's the Debian Free SOFTWARE Guidelines. A logo is not softwar

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-24 Thread Darren Benham
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 24-Jan-99 John Hasler wrote: > Andrew G . Feinberg writes: >> Why in the world do we need to license something as trivial as a _logo_? > > We don't. Of course we do. Otherwise we'd have to grant permission to every tom-dick-harry

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-24 Thread James A. Treacy
solve the problem. > In this case, the discussion seems to have been triggered by the > expiration of the current logo license. > True. I decided to leave it this way to force the issue - and it looks like it is working. If enough people complain loudly enough I or one of the other webma

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-25 Thread John Hasler
Andrew G . Feinberg writes: > Why in the world do we need to license something as trivial as a _logo_? I wrote: > We don't. Darren Benham writes: > Of course we do. Otherwise we'd have to grant permission to every > tom-dick-harry that wanted to use it in any way-shape-for

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-25 Thread James A. Treacy
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 06:20:49PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > Or don't license it: just use it on Debian stuff and grant individual > licenses on a case by case basis. I doubt that you will be swamped by all > the requests. > I'm glad to see you volunteer to take

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-25 Thread Andrew Dvorak
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > >On Sat, Jan 23, 1999 at 10:35:50PM -0600, Andrew G . Feinberg wrote: > > Larry Ewing and Tux. You don't see him writing a license, do you? > The picture of Tux is licensed freely for any use as long as Larry > Ewing is mentioned. Don&#x

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-25 Thread John Hasler
James A. Treacy writes: > Even with the existing license (and a valid expiry date) I have probably > handled 20 requests for use of the logo in the last 6 months. Doesn't seem like many considering that the present license encourages requests. Do you really think that forty people a

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-25 Thread Joey Hess
Jonathan P Tomer wrote: > is the name debian a registered trademark? I think so. > if it is, wouldn't it be sensible to do the same for the logo? I agree. I think trademarking the logo will allow us to prevent misuse and at the same time allow us to give it a DFSG-free copyright. -- see shy jo

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-25 Thread Max Hyre
All: Please pardon my non-developer comment, but one thing about the license has bothered me for a while, and I've seen no else bring it up: Do we really want to limit the maximum size of an entity that can display the license? Points 2, 3, & 4 of the license state, roug

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-25 Thread Thomas Adams
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 03:37:57AM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > to either of these animals. We have our own message, too. We are > constructors. We take the work of thousands of people and put them together. > Shouldn't this be reflected by the logo, too? You mean like a penguin wearing a har

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-26 Thread A . J . Gray
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 07:26:19AM -, Robert Woodcock wrote: > Avery Pennarun wrote: > >What if someone gets hold of the Linux kernel and uses it to guide nuclear > >missiles? (Well, at least they have to share their changes with us :)) > > Only if they distribute the control systems :> You'v

MIT License are DFSG complicant ?

2006-02-06 Thread José Carlos do Nascimento Medeiros
Hi,, I have a package (php-netcheckip) that was MIT licensed. Debian suports this license ? - The MIT License Copyright (c) Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to d

Re: Imagmagick license & various problems

1996-09-19 Thread Guy Maor
> I've debianized ImageMagick and uploaded it to master, in section > non-free for now. However I think I could move it to the 'graphics' > section as: > 1) The license states it's free (included as attachment) > 2) It doesn't include the GIF compres

cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-01 Thread Jim Pick
> yeah, cygwin32.dll is under the GPL. So? It's a DLL, like libc5 and > libc6 are... [the *only* thing I'm aware of that actually uses the > LGPL is libg++; it was as much of an experiment as anything, and I'm > not aware of any not-otherwise-free software taking advantage of those > terms...] J

License for the Raspberry PI

2013-07-10 Thread Tobias.Harzen
ks with the software Raspbian and there is installed your operating system Debian. My question is: Do I need a license for the software to develop in a company? With kind regards, Tobias Harzen

Re: License of a patch

2010-08-30 Thread Christian Kastner
On 08/30/2010 09:06 PM, D M German wrote: > > After my presentation at DebConf this year I was pointed to your efforts > on the Patch Tagging Guidelines. > > One thing I believe would be useful is if the patch included a > license. The simplest license would be "Same

Re: License of a patch

2010-08-31 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 30.08.2010 21:06, D M German wrote: After my presentation at DebConf this year I was pointed to your efforts on the Patch Tagging Guidelines. One thing I believe would be useful is if the patch included a license. The simplest license would be "Same as patched code" but it will

Re: License of a patch

2010-09-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, D M German wrote: > After my presentation at DebConf this year I was pointed to your efforts > on the Patch Tagging Guidelines. > > One thing I believe would be useful is if the patch included a > license. The simplest license would be "Same as

Re: License of a patch

2010-09-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Christian Kastner writes: > On 08/30/2010 09:06 PM, D M German wrote: >> >> After my presentation at DebConf this year I was pointed to your efforts >> on the Patch Tagging Guidelines. >> >> One thing I believe would be useful is if the patch included a >&

Re: Unicode License Additional Coverage

2019-01-03 Thread Yao Wei (魏銘廷)
Hi, Could you elaborate what part of license that someone might have concern? It looks like X11 license for me at the first glance. Yao Wei (This email is sent from a phone; sorry for HTML email if it happens.) > On Jan 4, 2019, at 04:49, Paul Hardy wrote: > > Dear Debian, >

Re: Unicode License Additional Coverage

2019-01-03 Thread Yao Wei (魏銘廷)
Never mind. I was wrongfully read as the license has the problem. (It is that, IVD files had no license attached to it, someone might think it is "All rights reserved" by copyright law in most jurisdictions. Please correct me if I am wrong again.) Yao Wei (This email is sent fr

Re: Unicode License Additional Coverage

2019-01-03 Thread Paul Hardy
Yao Wei, On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 9:18 PM "Yao Wei (魏銘廷)" wrote: > > Never mind. I was wrongfully read as the license has the problem. > > (It is that, IVD files had no license attached to it, someone might think it > is "All rights reserved" by copyrigh

Re: Unicode License Additional Coverage

2019-01-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Paul Hardy writes ("Unicode License Additional Coverage"): > Unicode, Inc. has informed me that they just added the directory > http://www.unicode.org/ivd/data/ to the list of directories explicitly > mentioned as covered by their license; see > http://www.unicode.org/

Re: xTuple Postbooks license change

2019-07-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 1:12 AM Seth McClain wrote: > xTuple recently took most of their git repos off of github and is > changing the license to much of the code moving forward. > > https://xtuple.com/blog/ned/free-software > > Debian currently offers builds of Po

Re: xTuple Postbooks license change

2019-07-18 Thread Andrej Shadura
Hi, On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 at 11:34, Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 18/07/2019 14:42, Andrej Shadura wrote: > > really used any of that software. Daniel was the other member, but I > > can’t imagine him going back to package maintenance any time soon. > Why would you write something offensive like that

Another question for a license

2019-12-08 Thread JungHwan Kang
Hi, forks. I appreciate your previous answer to my question about the open-source licenses. May I ask another question? 1. Is it no matter who releases his Linux distribution under his license for commercially? the distribution is made of modified and unmodified packages from upstream. 2

Re: Consultation on license documents

2023-03-17 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 09:09:22PM +0800, 刘涛 wrote: > Hello, I have the following questions to consult and look forward to your > authoritative answers. > > 1. Must various software packages in the Debian community contain a > license file "license.txt"? Without this

sybase license and openWatcom DFSGness

2016-08-01 Thread Gianfranco Costamagna
Hi, this is a question mainly for ftpmasters, but I think some public discussion here might be beneficial for me :) Basically, we thought OpenWatcom license wasn't DFSG for Debain standards, and now since I would like to put Virtualbox back in main, I'm trying to see if some

New: "cme run paste-license script" (was: Re: pasting license text into debian/copyright)

2017-10-17 Thread Dominique Dumont
Hi People have complained that adding license text in debian/copyright file is tedious. To avoid this problem, libconfig-model-dpkg-perl 2.102 now ships a new cme script to copy a license text in debian/copyright. This script is run with "cme run" command [1] For instance: $ echo

[DEP-5] Short license names (was: Re: DEP-5: query about possible inheritence of License:)

2009-09-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:48:04PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit : > > Question on this (because the current draft does not look particularly > clear on that topic, at least to my own reading): is it true that > arbitrary keywords can be used in License fields to reference lice

Bug#686485: ITP: license-reconcile -- Reconcile license/copyright between package source and debian/copyright file

2012-09-02 Thread Nicholas Bamber
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nicholas Bamber * Package name: license-reconcile Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Nicholas Bamber * URL : https://github.com/periapt/license-reconcile * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl Description

Bug#1028656: ITP: libstring-license-perl -- detect source code license statements in a text string

2023-01-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Debian Perl Group -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: libstring-license-perl Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Contact: Jonas Smedegaard * URL

Bug#1035633: ITP: node-license-webpack-plugin -- node-webpack plugin to manage third-party license

2023-05-06 Thread Yadd
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Yadd X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-license-webpack-plugin Version : 4.0.2 Upstream Contact: https://github.com/xz64/license-webpack-plugin/issues * URL : https://github.com/xz64/license-webpack

Re: New: "cme run paste-license script" (was: Re: pasting license text into debian/copyright)

2017-10-21 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Dominique, I wanted to try this cool feature but failed may be I did something wrong: $ gbp clone https://anonscm.debian.org/git/debian-med/beads.git $ cd beads beads(master) $ cme run paste-license --arg license=CeCILL --arg COPYING Log4perl: Seems like no initialization happened. Forgot

Re: New: "cme run paste-license script" (was: Re: pasting license text into debian/copyright)

2017-10-21 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 16:20:58 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > $ gbp clone https://anonscm.debian.org/git/debian-med/beads.git > $ cd beads > beads(master) $ cme run paste-license --arg license=CeCILL --arg COPYING % cme run paste-license --arg license=CeCILL --arg file=COPYING seem

Re: New: "cme run paste-license script" (was: Re: pasting license text into debian/copyright)

2017-10-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 06:40:37PM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 16:20:58 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > $ gbp clone https://anonscm.debian.org/git/debian-med/beads.git > > $ cd beads > > beads(master) $ cme run paste-license --arg lice

Re: New: "cme run paste-license script" (was: Re: pasting license text into debian/copyright)

2017-10-22 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Sunday, 22 October 2017 08:55:44 CEST Andreas Tille wrote: > $ cme run paste-license --arg license=CeCILL --arg file=COPYING > > copyright.patch Log4perl: Seems like no initialization happened. Forgot to > call init()? That's a bug in cme that will be fixed soon.

Re: New: "cme run paste-license script" (was: Re: pasting license text into debian/copyright)

2017-10-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 11:14:04AM +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote: > On Sunday, 22 October 2017 08:55:44 CEST Andreas Tille wrote: > > $ cme run paste-license --arg license=CeCILL --arg file=COPYING > > > copyright.patch Log4perl: Seems like no initialization happened. Forgo

Re: New: "cme run paste-license script" (was: Re: pasting license text into debian/copyright)

2017-10-22 Thread Dominique Dumont
o not understand. I the string CeCILL (with capital I) is in the > main license section. Could you please be more verbose how d/copyright > needs to look like to make cme add the license text? Uh ? From a fresh git clone of beads, cat debian/copyright shows: + Format: https://www.de

Re: New: "cme run paste-license script" (was: Re: pasting license text into debian/copyright)

2017-10-22 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Dominique, On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 07:39:10PM +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote: > > > > Sorry, I do not understand. I the string CeCILL (with capital I) is in the > > main license section. Could you please be more verbose how d/copyright > > needs to look like to make

Re: New: "cme run paste-license script" (was: Re: pasting license text into debian/copyright)

2017-10-23 Thread Dominique Dumont
t's use the same terminology as debian/copyright. I meant the section made of one or more "Stand-alone License paragraph" [1] . This one was missing from the file, the CeCILL license was not defined, hence the file was considered as invalid by cme. > > May be I should just d

dep5-copyright-license-name-not-unique versus varying wording of the BSD-3-clause license

2015-11-21 Thread Gert Wollny
Hi all, I work on a package (gdcm) that contains files from a variety of sources and as a result the d/copyright file is quite large [1]. Specifically, there are various source files that are all licensed with a BSD-3-clause license which are worded slightly differently. i.e. in some cases the

Re: Creative Commons 3.0 Attribution license

2007-05-31 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 31, Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, I prefer to ask about it first: Does anyone know if CC-by 3.0 is > DFSG-free or not for sure, shall I go ahead and put it in the repositories? The ftpmasters do. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Creative Commons 3.0 Attribution license

2007-05-31 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:47:37 +0200 Miriam Ruiz wrote: > Hi, > > I plan to file an ITP and package a cute small game [...] > All the game code is licensed under the GPL 2.0. Good. > All the game content, > sounds and graphics are licensed under Creative Commons 3.0 > Attri

Gaim-Encryption plugin violates Gaim's license

2003-06-02 Thread Robert McQueen
hat the Gaim-Encryption plugin for Gaim, which can be found at http://gaim-encryption.sourceforge.net/, makes use of the OpenSSL library, and loads it into the same process space as Gaim. Due to OpenSSL's four-clause BSD license (ie with the advertising clause), it is therefore in violatio

Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

2005-10-03 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10431 March 1977, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > Today my packages with PEAR modules was rejected from incoming queue. The > reason is that PHP License was used for PEAR library. NEW, not incoming. > I've found many packages already existing in Debian archive which are > lic

Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

2005-10-04 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
licensed with PHP License: php-auth - 3.0 php-date - 3.0 php-db - 3.0 php-file - 3.0 php-html-template-it - 2.0 php-http - 3.0 php-imlib - 2.0 php-mail - 2.0 php-net-checkip - 2.0 php-net-smtp - 2.0 php-net-socket - 2.0 php-services-weather - 2.0 php-xml-parser - 3.0 Are you going to report the

Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

2005-10-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Joerg Jaspert] > Another pointer: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/08/msg00128.html Are you sure you get this right. When I read the license, it look like a bad choosen license for PEAR (because of all the references to PHP), but not like a non-free license. The fact that t

Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

2005-10-04 Thread Alexander Wirt
Petter Reinholdtsen schrieb am Dienstag, den 04. Oktober 2005: > [Joerg Jaspert] > > Another pointer: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/08/msg00128.html > +snip+ > So perhaps the license is free according to DFSG? Of course its free. But it only fits to php it

Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

2005-10-04 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 01:30:49PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > As Jörg stated in his reject mail: "The reason for this decision is the > license which does not really fit the package.". Not: this license is > non-free! > Yep, it's like a license which woul

Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

2005-10-04 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10432 March 1977, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > It is cool that you filled the bug report for my package (php4-pear-log) but > I've found several more packages which are licensed with PHP License: > php-auth - 3.0 > php-date - 3.0 > php-db - 3.0 > php-file - 3.0 >

Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

2005-10-04 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
> > php-auth - 3.0 > > php-date - 3.0 > > php-db - 3.0 > > php-file - 3.0 > > php-html-template-it - 2.0 > > php-http - 3.0 > > php-imlib - 2.0 > > php-mail - 2.0 > > php-net-checkip - 2.0 > > php-net-smtp - 2.0 > > php-net-socket - 2.0 > > php-services-weather - 2.0 > > php-xml-parser - 3.0 > > Ar

Re: PHP License for PEAR packages

2005-10-05 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10432 March 1977, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: >> But now where you compiled the list I dont want to take the glory away >> From you, so feel free to do it yourself. :) > I could just clone the original bugreport. What do you think? Whatever you find more attractive. :) -- bye Joerg Linus: "Wenn

InaTux's "Author's Choice of Terminology License"

2009-06-07 Thread oohay moc.
Hello, I have sent an email to Richard Stallman asking a similar question, no response. So! I was wondering what the community at large, and hopefully the main Debian developers, think about InaTux's "Author's Choice of Terminology License"? You can find it here: http:/

Debian logo license still not resolved

1998-01-09 Thread James A . Treacy
Another person has requested use of the Debian logo. As most people are pretty happy with the license I added a clause saying the logo is usable under the current license (http://www.debian.org/logos/logo.html. Update should reach there soon) until 31 January 1998 and told him he could use it

Debian logo license still not resolved

1998-01-09 Thread Ian Jackson
James A.Treacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Another person has requested use of the Debian logo. As most people > are pretty happy with the license I added a clause saying the logo is > usable under the current license > (http://www.debian.org/logos/logo.html. Update should reach ther

Intent to package v2html, license question

1998-06-03 Thread Steve Phillips
I intend to package v2html, the verilog to HTML converter. I have a question about the license though: Would the following be OK to allow it in main? -- Steve PhillipsPhone: (715) 830-1200 x109 Silicon Logic Engineering, LLPFAX: (715) 830-1887 131

Re: MIT License are DFSG complicant ?

2006-02-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach José Carlos do Nascimento Medeiros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.02.06.1746 +0100]: > I have a package (php-netcheckip) that was MIT licensed. > Debian suports this license ? Yes. http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I r

Re: copyright law vs. license text

2006-02-14 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Daniel Ruoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Em Sáb, 2006-02-11 às 13:46 -0500, Nathanael Nerode escreveu: > I have one single question... Does copyright law even applies to legal > agreements and license terms? I'm pretty sure noone can be sued for > using the terms someon

Comment about the following license, please?

1996-09-23 Thread Yves Arrouye
Hello, I certainly mistakenly put Apache in non-free when I took over the package. I'd like to put it back into net, but can you tell me if its license, which follows, allows that? (I think it can). Thanks,

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-01 Thread Mark Eichin
1) in what way is cygwin32.dll different from libc5.so in this regard (since the license for both is the same: GPL) (2) the discussion wasn't writing *comercial* software with anything, but writing *free* software with a pseudo-free package like Qt... so how did we get here? There's *ce

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-01 Thread Galen Hazelwood
rictions on Qt, really. > > Two questions: (1) in what way is cygwin32.dll different from libc5.so > in this regard (since the license for both is the same: GPL) I believe libc5.so is LGPL... --Galen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe"

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-01 Thread Mark Eichin
> I believe libc5.so is LGPL... I don't. /usr/doc/libc5//copyright doesn't *mention* the LGPL *at all*, though the libc6 one mentions both. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-01 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
ry limiting of commercial software running on linux. >From the GPL section 2: These requirements apply to the modified work as a whole. If identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program, and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in themselves, then thi

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-01 Thread Jim Pick
> Two questions: (1) in what way is cygwin32.dll different from libc5.so > in this regard (since the license for both is the same: GPL) libc5 appears to be under the GPL, while libc6 appears to be under the LGPL. Weird. Does that mean that anything that is linked against libc5 has to be

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-01 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On 1 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote: > > > > I believe libc5.so is LGPL... > > > > I don't. /usr/doc/libc5//copyright doesn't *mention* the LGPL *at > > all*, though the libc6 one mentions both. > > Yep, the copyright file does not mention the LGPL at all. This seems to

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-01 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Gunthorpe) wrote on 01.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 1 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote: > > > > I believe libc5.so is LGPL... > > > > I don't. /usr/doc/libc5//copyright doesn't *mention* the LGPL *at > > all*, though the libc6 one mentions both. > > Yep, the copyright f

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-01 Thread Jim Pick
> Yes, very limiting. The code actually cannot be linked statically! Can't be linked dynamically either... read the GPL. Cheers, - Jim pgp6b75kk1gUm.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Shaya Potter
On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Jim Pick wrote: > > > Yes, very limiting. The code actually cannot be linked statically! > > Can't be linked dynamically either... read the GPL. > I'm not sure from a copyright standpoint how that works. A copyright means that you are protected from me using your copyri

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Bruce Perens
> I just brought this up, since it was my understanding that if you > want to write a commercial program (ie. not under the GPL), and > link it against cygwin.dll, you've got to pay Cygnus $$$. Not all > that different than the restrictions on Qt, really. Actually, it is different. GPL-ed softwar

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
ibc 1.0 > (libc5) and 2.0 (libc6) are both LGPL--at least the library parts. > Other programs grouped with the libc package are probably GPL. Ack! I must be blind, I looked right at this file right before posting too, from stdio.h: This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or m

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
e requirements apply to the modified work as a whole. If identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program, and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those sections when you distribute them as

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Mark Eichin
> Now, when you link -- statically or dynamically -- you are including > portions of libc5 in your binary. This results in your binary being Umm, no, actually -- the whole point of dynamic linking is that you're *not* including portions of libc5 in your binary. A replacement libc5 that met the "i

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 2 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote: > For some more perspective on the "interface" argument, go back and see > some of the flaming a year or two ago about the GNU "libmp" (multiple > precision integer math library.) See also the discussion of just a > week or three ago about a company shipping a co

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Jim Pick
never intended to be used for libraries and other dynamically-linked code where the legal implications are much more far-reaching. That's why the LGPL came into existence - the GPL was just too restrictive. The GPL is a very restrictive license. In many ways, it is just as restrictive as

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Philip Hands
[ I've not been following this thread too closely, so if I've got the wrong idea, please forgive me ] > The GPL is a very restrictive license. In many ways, it is just as > restrictive as the Qt license. Particularily in the case of libraries, > using it as Cygnus is d

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Raul Miller
On Jun 1, Jim Pick wrote > Actually, I had a very similar polite argument with RMS via private e-mail > (about linking Java libs with mixed GPL/LGPL/proprietary licenses). He > was pretty solid on the fact that run-time linking is the same as > "compiled-in" linking. Yep, once the run-time linkin

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Kai Henningsen
rk into another, where these parts are small with respect to both the first and the second work, definitely DO NOT make the second one a derived work, whatever any license may claim. Think about where this comes from. If I write a book, and include Hamlet's famous question somewhere, my

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Buddha Buck
s the resulting binary was derived from libmp. In this particular case, the program was thus subjected to both the GPL -and- the license on RSAREF, which are incompatable licenses. The FSF objected to the distribution of the modified package -at all-, since it would be impossible to fulfill the r

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Thomas Koenig
ith a non-GPL license (pretty much BSD-like). -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic diagram. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Mark Eichin
> However, the unique interface issue does exist with regard to gzip, > since that is purely a GPLed product. I think a libgzip or a gzip.dll > would run into the same issues as the libdb did. Not to distract from the original point (thank you for the clearer explanation of the libmp issue!) no

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Jim Pick
> [ I've not been following this thread too closely, > so if I've got the wrong idea, please forgive me ] > > > The GPL is a very restrictive license. In many ways, it is just as > > restrictive as the Qt license. Particularily in the case of libraries, >

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Jim Pick
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > I really must admit I find the GPL very cryptic, it's hard to say exactly > what it means if you look at very small detail. I do think that it makes > sense however that you should be able to put RCS in a dll and link to the > dll. That depends, if you put it in a .dll, a

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Raul Miller
On Jun 2, Jim Pick wrote > The cygwin.dll case in an example where the GPL is being used to restrict the > rights of other people using the code so that they can't do something taboo > such as charge money, while at the same time, reserving the right for the > authors to do the exact same thing.

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Jim Pick
sues. Can someone point out a better forum? I'm not saying that they're being immoral. I don't think they have properly addressed the issues though. Maybe that means they would be open to releasing the cygwin.dll under the LGPL in addition to the GPL and their proprietary license.

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Christian Hudon
On Jun 2, Raul Miller wrote > > [Note: what RMS is trying to argue against is the stunt > Steve Jobs & Co. pulled with Objective C.] Could you describe what the said 'stunt' was? I'm curious... Christian pgpyv2Q82qumI.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Shaya Potter
On 2 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote: > > Now, when you link -- statically or dynamically -- you are including > > portions of libc5 in your binary. This results in your binary being > > Umm, no, actually -- the whole point of dynamic linking is that you're > *not* including portions of libc5 in yo

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-02 Thread Philip Hands
Hi Jim, > Imagine if Microsoft demanded that everybody had to use a certain > license in order to run on top of their operating system. Well, they do actually. Microsoft charges for the licences to use it's ``operating systems''. If the Freeware community produces

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-03 Thread Shaya Potter
Well, maybe the GPL is broken when it comes to situations like this. What I don't understand is, if something doesn't contain any GPL'd code, how can the GPL force me to put my product under it. So it has the interface calls to library/.dll, copyrights don't cover how something works, patents d

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-03 Thread Carey Evans
Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] > libdb would be an issue if you used the db interfaces; if you used the > dbm_* interfaces, you'd presumably be ok... But the original libdb was covered by the BSD copyright; the libc6 copyright states: "All code incorporated from 4.4 BSD is under

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-04 Thread Jim Pick
e. [Even if > it wasn't, I don't understand how a gpl'd dll could be considered > a problem.] That's true. I was just thinking about all the packages that use it. It's worth doing, even if Cygnus doesn't want to LGPL their license. At least we could port the 1

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-04 Thread Raul Miller
On Jun 2, Jim Pick wrote > Just so you understand why I'm so interested - I'm working on porting dpkg > to cygwin32. Porting or re-implementing? If it's a port, dpkg is already under gpl, so cygwin32 being under gpl shouldn't be an issue. [Even if it wasn't, I don't understand how a gpl'd dll co

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-07 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Pick) wrote on 01.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Yes, very limiting. The code actually cannot be linked statically! > > Can't be linked dynamically either... read the GPL. Can too. Read the law. The GPL _cannot_ restrict someone from doing that, regardless of what the

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-07 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: >> Can't be linked dynamically either... read the GPL. > > Can too. Read the law. > > The GPL _cannot_ restrict someone from doing that, regardless of what they > put in it. Although they _can_ restrict you f

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-07 Thread Wayne Schlitt
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Pick) wrote on 01.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Yes, very limiting. The code actually cannot be linked statically! > > > > Can't be linked dynamically either... read the GPL. > > Can too. Read the

Re: cygwin.dll license (was Re: FreeQt ?)

1997-06-08 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) wrote on 07.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > > >> Can't be linked dynamically either... read the GPL. > > > > Can too. Read the law. > > > > The GPL _cannot_ restrict someone from d

Re: License for the Raspberry PI

2013-07-10 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-07-10 10:39, tobias.har...@dlr.de wrote: > The Raspberry PI works with the software Raspbian and there is > installed your operating system Debian. My question is: Do I need a > license for the software to develop in a company?

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