Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Eric Dorland [Substituting your fixed sentence in the text below] | I think a build-dependency on automake and autoconf is almost always | a bad idea. It makes the build more unpredictable, which is | generally a bad thing. You should just run automake and/or autoconf | on the unpacked source

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-30 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 08:14:09AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Eric Dorland [Substituting your fixed sentence in the text below] | I think a build-dependency on automake and autoconf is almost always | a bad idea. It makes the build more unpredictable, which is | generally a bad

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Eric Dorland [Substituting your fixed sentence in the text below] | I think a build-dependency on automake and autoconf is almost always | a bad idea. It makes the build more unpredictable, which is | generally a bad thing. You should just

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-30 Thread Robert Collins
On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 03:33 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: * Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Because we want to test for buildability. We want to make it possible to change any part of the program and barring real errors, it should still build. That upstream writes crap

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Robert Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 03:33 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: * Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Because we want to test for buildability. We want to make it possible to change any part of the program and barring real errors, it should

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-30 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 10:30:56AM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: * Robert Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So either you don't patch the package, or you be willing to require the relevant auto* be installed. Or you put the patch in the .diff.gz. I think that's the best option. Uh, it's

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 10:30:56AM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: * Robert Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So either you don't patch the package, or you be willing to require the relevant auto* be installed. Or you put the patch in the

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-30 Thread Philipp Kern
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Dorland wrote: Yes, they are necessary tools for developers. But nearly ever project I've ever seen ships the files generated from the auto* tools. However I feel the use of a build-dependency is a legitimate one if the package is built

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Philipp Kern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Dorland wrote: Yes, they are necessary tools for developers. But nearly ever project I've ever seen ships the files generated from the auto* tools. However I feel the use of a build-dependency

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-30 Thread Philipp Kern
Eric Dorland wrote: Why? Just run auto* on the unpacked tarball and ship them in the .diff.gz? What makes it more legitimate in that case? That the upstream developers didn't run the autotools? They would have, if it were a proper release. Well, I did not talk about regular snapshots, but

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-30 Thread Clint Adams
Well, I did not talk about regular snapshots, but about direct exports. Some tools in Debian (like darcs-buildpackage, thank you John for this) make it possible to make such SCM builds. However the Autotools output is not versioned, so not included in the tarball. It is possible to run

Linda warnings

2005-05-29 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
; The command xmessage -timeout 10 `fan -n` listed in a menu file does not exist. W: toshutils; The command xmessage -timeout 10 `fan` listed in a menu file does not exist. When building toshutils, which I am in the process of adopting, on Anibal's pbuilder, I get the above linda warnings. I asked

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-29 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Roberto C. Sanchez] W: toshutils; Package Build-Depends on automake* or autoconf. This package Build-Depends on automake* or autoconf. This is almost never a good idea, as the package should run autoconf or automake on the source tree before the source package is built. There's lots

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-29 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 01:31:31PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Roberto C. Sanchez] W: toshutils; The file config.guess contains a timestamp line that is less than 2002. The autoconf file shown above contains a timestamp variable that has a year that is less than 2002. This

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-29 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 01:31:31PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Roberto C. Sanchez] W: toshutils; Package Build-Depends on automake* or autoconf. This package Build-Depends on automake* or autoconf. This is almost never a good idea, as the package should run autoconf or automake on

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-29 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 01:31:31PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: Build-depend on autotools-dev, and copy /usr/share/misc/config.guess and config.sub into place at build time. ln -fs also works. It's a very light build dep, so there's not much point in patching the right files into the source

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-29 Thread Eric Dorland
* Peter Samuelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [Roberto C. Sanchez] W: toshutils; Package Build-Depends on automake* or autoconf. This package Build-Depends on automake* or autoconf. This is almost never a good idea, as the package should run autoconf or automake on the source tree

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-29 Thread Eric Dorland
* Eric Dorland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I don't think a dependency on automake and autoconf are almost always bad ideas. It makes the build more unpredictable, which is generally a bad thing. You should just run automake and/or autoconf on the unpacked source and ship it in the .diff.gz. An

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-29 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 06:49:22PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: * Eric Dorland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I don't think a dependency on automake and autoconf are almost always bad ideas. It makes the build more unpredictable, which is generally a bad thing. You should just run automake and/or

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-29 Thread Eric Dorland
* Roberto C. Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 06:49:22PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: * Eric Dorland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I don't think a dependency on automake and autoconf are almost always bad ideas. It makes the build more unpredictable, which is

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-29 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 06:40:26PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: I don't think a dependency on automake and autoconf are almost always bad ideas. It makes the build more unpredictable, which is generally a bad thing. You should just run automake and/or autoconf on the unpacked source and ship

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-29 Thread Eric Dorland
* Roberto C. Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 06:40:26PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: I don't think a dependency on automake and autoconf are almost always bad ideas. It makes the build more unpredictable, which is generally a bad thing. You should just run

Re: Linda warnings

2005-05-29 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 11:03:14PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: * Roberto C. Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 06:40:26PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: I don't think a dependency on automake and autoconf are almost always bad ideas. It makes the build more