Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-29 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Dienstag, den 28.05.2013, 22:45 -0400 schrieb Ryan Kavanagh: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 05:08:06PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: There have been two responses to your proposal so far, neither of which particularly looks to be in favor of your plan. I don't think it's reasonable to proceed

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-29 Thread Ryan Kavanagh
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:29:07AM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote: Have you checked indirect build-dependencies on texi2html (e.g. the package build depends on foo, which depends on texi2html)? ryan@nu:~$ reverse-depends texi2html Reverse-Depends === * translate-docformat Packages

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-29 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le mardi 28 mai 2013 16:48:50, Ryan Kavanagh a écrit : On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 08:28:37PM -0400, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: See attached for a dd-list of affected packages. On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 04:37:44PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: Please attach a list of packages run through

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-29 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Sébastien, hi all, On Di, 28 Mai 2013, Sébastien Villemot wrote: AFAIK, makeinfo is not able to render @math blocks as images (formatted with LaTeX), while texi2html does. The output of math formulas with On the bug-texinfo list I got the following answer from Patrice Dumas, the author: On

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-28 Thread Sébastien Villemot
Le lundi 27 mai 2013 à 20:28 -0400, Ryan Kavanagh a écrit : In coordination with Norbert Preining, I propose a MBF against all packages depending on or build-depending on texi2html, asking them to transition from the `texi2html' utility to the `makeinfo' utility from the texinfo package, with

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-28 Thread Ryan Kavanagh
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 08:45:04AM +0200, Sébastien Villemot wrote: AFAIK, makeinfo is not able to render @math blocks as images (formatted with LaTeX), while texi2html does. The output of math formulas with makeinfo --html is very ugly, since it basically dumps the Texi/LaTeX source of the

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-28 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 28/05/13 16:01, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: On the basis of Sébastien's objection, I propose the MBF to have severity wishlist and the following amended text. Not everybody will be able to transition from texi2html, but those who can should. It will be easier to transition the remaining few packages

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-28 Thread Ryan Kavanagh
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 08:28:37PM -0400, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: See attached for a dd-list of affected packages. On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 04:37:44PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: Please attach a list of packages run through dd-list before doing the MBF. Sorry, I guess I forgot to actually

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-28 Thread Ryan Kavanagh
As a final notice, unless I get any objections (there have been none so far), I plan to go forward with the MBF at 03:00UTC on 2013-05-29. As explained on the Texi2htmlTransition wiki page[0], if you are unwilling/unable to transition to texinfo due to missing math rendering, please mark your bug

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 07:06:23PM -0400, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: As a final notice, unless I get any objections (there have been none so far), I plan to go forward with the MBF at 03:00UTC on 2013-05-29. As explained on the Texi2htmlTransition wiki page[0], if you are unwilling/unable to

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-28 Thread Norbert Preining
On Di, 28 Mai 2013, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: Norbert, as Texinfo maintainer, do you know if upstream has an ITA for when the math-images-in-HTML will arrive in makeinfo? No I don't know, but I have forwarded the question to bug-texinfo, let us see what we get. Norbert

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-28 Thread Ryan Kavanagh
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 05:08:06PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: There have been two responses to your proposal so far, neither of which particularly looks to be in favor of your plan. I don't think it's reasonable to proceed with a mass-bug filing on over 800 packages as a first step,

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:45:25PM -0400, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 05:08:06PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: There have been two responses to your proposal so far, neither of which particularly looks to be in favor of your plan. I don't think it's reasonable to proceed

MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-27 Thread Ryan Kavanagh
In coordination with Norbert Preining, I propose a MBF against all packages depending on or build-depending on texi2html, asking them to transition from the `texi2html' utility to the `makeinfo' utility from the texinfo package, with the end goal of being able to remove the texi2html package from

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

2013-05-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: In coordination with Norbert Preining, I propose a MBF against all packages depending on or build-depending on texi2html, asking them to transition from the `texi2html' utility to the `makeinfo' utility from the texinfo package, with the