Re: More 5 november in the release schedule [and 1 more messages]

2016-11-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 15:43:26 +0100, gregor herrmann wrote: >On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 10:29:13 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > >> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 08:26:46 +0100, Christoph Biedl >> wrote: >> >Finally, there's a thing called "trust": I trust the Release

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule [and 1 more messages]

2016-11-13 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 10:29:13 +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 08:26:46 +0100, Christoph Biedl > wrote: > >Finally, there's a thing called "trust": I trust the Release Team does > >this solely in order to keep the freeze time as short as possible, >

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule [and 1 more messages]

2016-11-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 11:07:18 +0100, Christoph Biedl wrote: >Marc Haber wrote... > >> This is exactly the problem I have with the current policy: I fail to >> see why this measure will shorten the freeze. > >I don't. But I'd say we'll just watch what's going to

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule [and 1 more messages]

2016-11-13 Thread Christoph Biedl
Marc Haber wrote... > This is exactly the problem I have with the current policy: I fail to > see why this measure will shorten the freeze. I don't. But I'd say we'll just watch what's going to happen and resume this discussion once stretch is released. Chri- "somewhen December 2017" stoph

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule [and 1 more messages]

2016-11-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 10:17:57 +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: >And yes, we will give exceptions on a case by case basis, as we have always >done. This will create a third class of packages: The ones that are not important enough to get an exception, which will in turn

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule [and 1 more messages]

2016-11-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 08:26:46 +0100, Christoph Biedl wrote: >Finally, there's a thing called "trust": I trust the Release Team does >this solely in order to keep the freeze time as short as possible, >everybody hates that time anyway. This trust was created by the

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule [and 1 more messages]

2016-11-10 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 10/11/16 08:26, Christoph Biedl wrote: > Ian Jackson wrote... > >> I think what is really worrying people is the fear that they might >> miss something, for good reasons, and then find that their work that >> they care about is thrown out of stretch. >> >> It is difficult to address this fear

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule [and 1 more messages]

2016-11-09 Thread Christoph Biedl
Ian Jackson wrote... > I think what is really worrying people is the fear that they might > miss something, for good reasons, and then find that their work that > they care about is thrown out of stretch. > > It is difficult to address this fear with logical arguments intended > to demonstrate

Re: More 5 november in the release schedule [and 1 more messages]

2016-11-09 Thread Ian Jackson
gregor herrmann writes ("Re: More 5 november in the release schedule"): > I don't quite understand where all this fuzz about auto-removals > suddenly comes from. The auto-removals exist since Septemer 2013 [0] > and they were also in place for the jessie freeze [1], with the small > difference