Stephen Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thinkpad 600). But I'm impressed. Theoretically, one
> is not supposed to be able to hot swap a PS/2 mouse.
> But it works. Kudos to the kernel folks.
The problem has never been that the mouse didn't work after a hot
swap.
The problem is that with
Well shut my mouth! I did some testing this past
weekend, as I said I would, and results are better
than expected. First, leaving things the way I had
them configured (X pointing to /dev/gpmdata and gpm
pointing to /dev/psaux, I unplugged the PS/2 mouse
from the mouse port. The mouse became dead
Since my initial post I have done some research on the
subject of mouse support in the Linux kernel. I can
see now why my suggestion was met with such strong
opposition: it goes counter to the direction the
kernel has been going since 2.5. With such a sweeping
redesign of mouse support since 2.4,
[Stephen Powell]
> I realize that PS/2 mice were not intended to be hot swapped, but
> "stuff happens".
The kernel 'psmouse' module, and the 'serio' layer that actually talks
to the i8042, actually have much more thorough and robust support for
PS/2 hotplugging than gpm ever did. The kernel even
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:22:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Which I did many years ago. But it would still make it easier for
> us dual-use people, and not affect only-gooey users, if gpm were the
> default.
I would like ssh installed by default before gpm, but I don't think we
need to go back
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:35:20AM -0700, Stephen Powell wrote:
> Thanks for the update on mouse sharing in newer
> kernels. I didn't realize that this support had been
> added. That does take away part of my supporting
> argument for configuring X to use gpm.
It was a very nice improvement.
>
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 08:16:28AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> Where is your data for this assertion?
The number of people that have no idea how to get to the console from X.
Personally I hate dealing with machines that don't have gpm installed,
but I don't want to bloat the base install either.
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On 05/29/08 11:25, Frans Pop wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/29/08 09:35, Stephen Powell wrote:
>>> I'm not sure how one would know that most people don't
>>> use the console. I, for one, use it a lot. But even
>
> I work mainly in consoles too
Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/29/08 09:35, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> I'm not sure how one would know that most people don't
>> use the console. I, for one, use it a lot. But even
I work mainly in consoles too but I have no use at all for gpm as my
consoles are normally all in a graphical environmen
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:35:20 -0700, Stephen Powell wrote:
> I realize that PS/2 mice were not intended to be hot
> swapped, but "stuff happens". Sometimes the connector
> is loose and falls out, sometimes a mischievous
> co-worker unplugs it as a practical joke, sometimes
> the mouse fails, s
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On 05/29/08 09:35, Stephen Powell wrote:
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>
>> Given most people don't use the console ever,
>> installing a service that
>> is only for console use by default is simply wrong.
>
> I'm not sure how one would know that most people don't
> use th
> With current kernels, if you use /dev/input/mice,
the
> port can be shared
> by gpm and X at the same time, and all mice you
connect
> (no matter what)
> show up in that device.
Thanks for the update on mouse sharing in newer
kernels. I didn't realize that this support had been
added. That doe
Quoting Ben Finney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:
>
> > Given most people don't use the console ever
>
> Where is your data for this assertion?
Probably too wide generalization by Lennart.
My own assertion was that people who use the console *on an enough
re
On jeu, 2008-05-29 at 08:16 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> This argument would also see the removal of 'login', since that's not
> needed by your putative majority of people who don't log in over
> text-only interfaces.
Do you _really_ think gpm is as important as login?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:
> Given most people don't use the console ever
Where is your data for this assertion?
> installing a service that is only for console use by default is
> simply wrong. The less services need to be enabled by default the
> better.
This argument would
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 06:49:17AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Not to mention the various remarks that have been made, I would like
> to enhance that ppl who use the Linux console on a regular basis
> (which is usually what motivates activating a mouse on it) are
> perfectly able to know that
Quoting Stephen Powell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> This will allow the use of the mouse both in a virtual
> console and in X. Not only that, but "hot swapping"
Not to mention the various remarks that have been made, I would like
to enhance that ppl who use the Linux console on a regular basis
(which
Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> With current kernels, if you use /dev/input/mice, the port can be shared
> by gpm and X at the same time, and all mice you connect (no matter what)
> show up in that device. Of course PS/2 mice can not be connected while
> the system is on, since the hardware simply is no
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 12:57:11PM -0700, Stephen Powell wrote:
> Per the suggestion of J?r?my Bobbio when he closed Bug
> # 481514 against installation-reports, I am posting
> this item to the debian-devel mailing list.
>
> The Debian installer needs some improvement when it
> comes to mouse conf
Per the suggestion of Jérémy Bobbio when he closed Bug
# 481514 against installation-reports, I am posting
this item to the debian-devel mailing list.
The Debian installer needs some improvement when it
comes to mouse configuration. Currently, if the user
requests a "standard system" and a "deskt
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