or completeness?
Dave Bristel
On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Robert Stone wrote:
> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 15:49:37 -0700
> From: Robert Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: David Bristel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Move pr
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 10:51:33PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Sep 18, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >An alternative is wu-ftpd. It would be rather foolish to support wu-ftpd
> >100%, however, it has almost the same status as sendmail - it is a very
> You mean that it's like sendma
On Sep 18, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>An alternative is wu-ftpd. It would be rather foolish to support wu-ftpd
>100%, however, it has almost the same status as sendmail - it is a very
You mean that it's like sendmail, i.e. security bugs pops out every time
somebody looks at the code?
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 07:52:24AM -0700, David Bristel wrote:
> Or a new section for packages removed from main due to bugs, but possibly
> still desired by some people? It's safer to have a clear message that
> "Debian considers these packages to contain too many bugs for inclusion in
> the main
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 09:57:44AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> An alternative is wu-ftpd. It would be rather foolish to support wu-ftpd
> 100%, however, it has almost the same status as sendmail - it is a very
> well tested and greatly improved software, for years now.
You're right, it has the
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:22:59PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
> Anyway, which ftpd in unstable do you see as the package to promote as
> the ftpd of choice in Debian?
>
> Just to see what our alternatives are.
An alternative is wu-ftpd. It would be rather foolish to support wu-ftpd
100%, h
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 04:53:43PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
> * "Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hamish> I don't think policy says that contrib is a dumping ground for
> Hamish> crap packages. Can you point out which part to me please?
>
> If you call proftpd crap
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:22:59PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
> Anyway, which ftpd in unstable do you see as the package to promote as
> the ftpd of choice in Debian?
Depending on what your needs are, perhaps roxen.
--
Raul
* "Joel" == Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Joel> People on linux-security-audit *have* said that about proftpd,
Joel> and that was said before the most recent security hole was
Joel> discovered. Rather proving them right, wouldn't you say?
Well, not really a prove in scientific way. I
At 20:45 +0200 1999-09-17, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
OK, a bug in cron has recently produced a root exploit. What a crappy
software, it should be moved to contrib.
There's no evidence that cron has another one just waiting to happen.
People on linux-security-audit *have* said that about proftpd, an
"Chris" == Chris Rutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Chris> And, also, arguably cron is a more important part of a Unix
Chris> system than a specific FTP daemon.
And I agree that proftpd should be moved to contrib in slink, if not
removed entirely -- no one has time to backport the
security-fix-o
On 17 Sep 1999, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
> OK, a bug in cron has recently produced a root exploit. What a crappy
> software, it should be moved to contrib.
Yes, but there aren't *hundreds* of bugs in cron, all giving security
problems; it has been subject (presumably) to security review;
bugs do
* "Joel" == Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Joel> At 16:53 +0200 1999-09-17, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
>> If you call proftpd crap, how do you call dpkg?
Joel> No bug in dpkg has ever resulted in a a remote root exploit.
OK, a bug in cron has recently produced a root exploit. What a cr
At 16:53 +0200 1999-09-17, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
* "Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hamish> I don't think policy says that contrib is a dumping ground for
Hamish> crap packages. Can you point out which part to me please?
If you call proftpd crap, how do you call dpkg?
No bu
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On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 07:52:24AM -0700, David Bristel wrote:
> > > This package has been a major source of serious security bugs and
> > > indicatiosn are that it will remain as such. Our Policy states t
* "Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hamish> I don't think policy says that contrib is a dumping ground for
Hamish> crap packages. Can you point out which part to me please?
If you call proftpd crap, how do you call dpkg?
Please, I am in no part convinced that anything has to
sip Rodin wrote:
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:44:46 +0200
> From: Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Move proftpd to contrib
> Resent-Date: 17 Sep 1999 14:45:46 -
> Resent
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 10:42:36PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> This package has been a major source of serious security bugs and
> indicatiosn are that it will remain as such. Our Policy states that
> packages that are not sufficiently free of bugs to meet our standards
> should not be in main an
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 22:42:36 -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> This package has been a major source of serious security bugs and
> indicatiosn are that it will remain as such.
SuSE have indicated they're dropping it:
http://linuxtoday.com/story.php3?sn=10124 .
> Our Policy states that packages tha
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 10:42:36PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> > This package has been a major source of serious security bugs and
> > indicatiosn are that it will remain as such. Our Policy states that
> > packages that are not sufficiently free of b
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 10:42:36PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> This package has been a major source of serious security bugs and
> indicatiosn are that it will remain as such. Our Policy states that
> packages that are not sufficiently free of bugs to meet our standards
> should not be in main an
"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> whatever steps necessary to do that. We absolutely cannot
John> release a distribution with such a bubbling security hole as
John> this.
True, but I suggest waiting until freeze time before deciding its
worthiness.
netgod
This package has been a major source of serious security bugs and
indicatiosn are that it will remain as such. Our Policy states that
packages that are not sufficiently free of bugs to meet our standards
should not be in main and should be moved to contrib. I therefore
encourage that people invol
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