2015-09-09 1:00 GMT+02:00 Michael Shuler <mich...@pbandjelly.org>:

> On 09/08/2015 05:05 PM, Jérémy Lal wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> i'm packaging nodejs 4.0.0, which contains CNNICHashWhitelist.inc,
>> related to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1151512
>>
>> This file is non-dfsg in itself (it's not preferred form for
>> modification),
>> but i don't really understand what it is.
>>
>
> From the best of my reading, it's restricting Firefox from validating any
> cert signed by CNNIC except those on the provided whitelist. I don't see
> where this was included in NSS.
>
> FYI the debian nodejs package itself uses the files from ca-certificates,
>> not the ones bundled in it.
>> Is this CNNIC white list something meaningful in that case ?
>>
>
> ca-certificates is very little beyond the mozilla CA bundle and a method
> for users to select the CAs they wish to trust/distrust. There is no
> library, just root certs. CNNIC is one of those root certs. If a user does
> not want to trust a CA, then can disable it. Unfortunately, there is no
> middle ground.
>
> This whitelist is one of those grey area things that Mozilla has started
> doing in code outside of the root CA bundle, instead of just invalidating
> the root CA completely. There's nothing that can really be done in the
> ca-certificates package, since it's boolean; trust or not. This means there
> is not an exact parity between what Firefox may validate (or not) and
> software that uses the Debian ca-certificates trusted root CA list. NSS, on
> the other hand, may have gotten the same whitelist logic as Firefox - I
> don't know.
>
> Is it meaningful? CNNIC is a trusted CA by default, so certs will
> validate. If someone waves their arms because we don't invalidate something
> exactly the same way as Firefox, then we need a library of some sort to do
> that, like NSS, which means re-writing software like nodejs to link against
> it, etc. Not sure if it's worth the effort - and users that don't trust
> CNNIC can simply disable that CA completely.
>
> Let me know if that helps (or not)!  :^)


It does, thank you a lot.
Apparently nodejs is doing that work of filtering itself !
Depending on the dfsg status of the generated file i'll disable that
functionnality, or not.

cc-ing to -devel in case someone is interested.

Jérémy

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