Re: Bug#810018: New Essential package procps-base

2023-11-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 20, Craig Small wrote: > Also why is killall5 not a candidate too? Probably because it makes no sense outside of sysvinit, except that as a footgun. (Also, is it equivalent to pkill --inverse?) -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#810018: New Essential package procps-base

2023-11-19 Thread Craig Small
h pidof to new Essential package procps-base THEN update/fix the dependent packages 2) Update/fix the dependent packages THEN move pidof to standard procps. Independent? of either: re-work init scripts to use start-stop-daemon For people that want the standard pidof #1 is preferred, for people concerned a

Re: New Essential package procps-base

2023-11-15 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 17:29:01 +1100, Craig Small wrote: > What: > Create a new package procps-base. This uses the existing procps source > package and just enable building of pidof. procps-base will be an Essential > package and only contain pidof. > > Why: > This would bring the pidof

Re: New Essential package procps-base

2023-11-14 Thread Gioele Barabucci
On 14/11/23 11:11, Helmut Grohne wrote: I welcome the effort in general. Like Andreas, I question whether having pidof remain essential is useful. A quick codesearch https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=%5Cbpidof%5Cb=0 suggests that we have less than 500 source packages that even mention it.

Re: New Essential package procps-base

2023-11-14 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 at 10:13, Helmut Grohne wrote: > So in essence, you asked for changing the pidof implementation and > Andreas and me try to turn this into a much bigger quest of making it > non-essential. While these matters are related, they can be done > independently in principle and if

Re: New Essential package procps-base

2023-11-14 Thread Helmut Grohne
Hi Craig, On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:29:01PM +1100, Craig Small wrote: > Hello, > For quite some time (since 2006!) there has been a discussion at[1] about > changing from the sysvinit-utils version of pidof to the procps one. A > quick scan of the various distributions shows that only Debian

Re: New Essential package procps-base

2023-11-14 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 11/14/23 18:42, Andreas Henriksson wrote: Instead I think pidof can just be part of procps package. The sysvinit-utils package will then pull in procps via a dependency (once sysvinit-utils stops being Essential), which would smooth the transition for all sysvinit users until LSB

Re: New Essential package procps-base

2023-11-14 Thread Andreas Henriksson
Hello, On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:29:01PM +1100, Craig Small wrote: > Hello, > For quite some time (since 2006!) there has been a discussion at[1] about > changing from the sysvinit-utils version of pidof to the procps one. A > quick scan of the various distributions shows that only Debian and

New Essential package procps-base

2023-11-13 Thread Craig Small
Hello, For quite some time (since 2006!) there has been a discussion at[1] about changing from the sysvinit-utils version of pidof to the procps one. A quick scan of the various distributions shows that only Debian and Ubuntu (and I assume most other downstreams) use the sysvinit-utils version.