Stephen Birch wrote:
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 05:02 -0500, Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting David Weinehall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Indeed. The Nokia OSSO (Open Source Software Operations) that work on
this product consists of several DD's (myself being one), plus at least
one person in
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:47:50AM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:21:46AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote:
Florian Weimer([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 09:32:
* Stephen Birch:
Wow Nokia just became my new favourite company.
To put things into
* Stephen Birch:
Wow Nokia just became my new favourite company.
To put things into perspective, Nokia is one of the companies lobbying
for unlimited software patents in Europe.
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Florian Weimer([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 09:32:
* Stephen Birch:
Wow Nokia just became my new favourite company.
To put things into perspective, Nokia is one of the companies lobbying
for unlimited software patents in Europe.
Oops. I don't like to appear fickle but I guess they
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:21:46AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote:
Florian Weimer([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 09:32:
* Stephen Birch:
Wow Nokia just became my new favourite company.
To put things into perspective, Nokia is one of the companies lobbying
for unlimited software
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:47:50AM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
So, I take it you don't buy any products from Apple, IBM, Sony,
etc either?
Same for Alcatel, Ericsson and Siemens, who actively support software patents
in Europe :(
They all sent threat/blackmail letters to European government
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 12:10:02PM +0200, Xavier Roche wrote:
Both IBM and Nokia said they won't sue open source developpers. For the
moment, at least. This is the real threat, IMHO: big companies using open
source for a while, and then.. killing it when they don't need it anymore.
That is
* Jesus Climent:
That is the key: OSS cannot be killed, not while EU and USA's
governments, local and nationwide, are promoting, using and even
developing OSS themselves.
Most countries use OSS only when it's supported by large companies
that can be sued for billions. Smaller companies
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 01:33:00PM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote:
That is the key: OSS cannot be killed, not while EU and USA's governments,
local and nationwide, are promoting, using and even developing OSS themselves.
I can't be killed, but it can be expensive. What will do governments, local
Am 2005-06-06 12:10:02, schrieb Xavier Roche:
922 patents (including software patents, still 'illegal' in Europe)
were issued by Nokia, by the way:
http://swpat.ffii.org/players/nokia/index.en.html
But IBM issued much more (at least 2620, according to ffii) software
patents.
For some month
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:19:20PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
Many of those Patents a not related to OSS.
Yes, true. But many other non software patents are actually disguised
software patents (such as implementing a trivial algorithm on a chip - hey,
these ARE software patents)
And some
Am 2005-06-06 15:02:31, schrieb Xavier Roche:
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:19:20PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
Many of those Patents a not related to OSS.
Yes, true. But many other non software patents are actually
disguised software patents (such as implementing a trivial algorithm
on a
David Weinehall([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 11:47:
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top company to bottom in my mind. Sigh ... I would have liked one of
those tablet computer.
So, I take it you don't buy any products from Apple, IBM, Sony,
etc either?
Apple ... nope
IBM ... nope
Sony ... okay, so you got me!
Michelle Konzack([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 15:52:
I know, and I have no money to sue Microsoft which has stolen
a Software which was 1986 under PD for educational use only...
Just out of curiosity, what was that?
Steve
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Jesus Climent writes:
That is the key: OSS cannot be killed, not while EU and USA's governments,
local and nationwide, are promoting, using and even developing OSS themselves.
Would you shoot on your feet?
The politicians really don't comprehend the problem (and neither do most of
the CEOs of
Am 2005-06-06 08:17:21, schrieb Stephen Birch:
Michelle Konzack([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 15:52:
I know, and I have no money to sue Microsoft which has stolen
a Software which was 1986 under PD for educational use only...
Just out of curiosity, what was that?
1) A Scandisk routine
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:17:21AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote:
Michelle Konzack([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 15:52:
I know, and I have no money to sue Microsoft which has stolen
a Software which was 1986 under PD for educational use only...
Just out of curiosity, what was that?
Out of
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:01:37PM +0200, Xavier Roche wrote:
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 01:33:00PM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote:
That is the key: OSS cannot be killed, not while EU and USA's governments,
local and nationwide, are promoting, using and even developing OSS
themselves.
I can't
Michelle Konzack writes:
I know, and I have no money to sue Microsoft which has stolen a Software
which was 1986 under PD for educational use only...
You don't need any money and you don't need to sue Microsoft. If you have
proof of prior art for a software patent please contact one of the
Am 2005-06-06 10:11:22, schrieb John Hasler:
You don't need any money and you don't need to sue Microsoft. If you have
proof of prior art for a software patent please contact one of the many
organizations fighting such patents, such as the Free Software Foundation
http://www.gnu.org.
I wrote:
You don't need any money and you don't need to sue Microsoft. If you have
proof of prior art for a software patent please contact one of the many
organizations fighting such patents, such as the Free Software Foundation
http://www.gnu.org.
Michelle Konzack writes:
Hmmm, should I
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 05:02 -0500, Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting David Weinehall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Indeed. The Nokia OSSO (Open Source Software Operations) that work on
this product consists of several DD's (myself being one), plus at least
one person in the NM-queue. Some of our
Quoting David Weinehall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Indeed. The Nokia OSSO (Open Source Software Operations) that work on
this product consists of several DD's (myself being one), plus at least
one person in the NM-queue. Some of our subcontractors are also DD's.
This should be IMHO publicized
On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 11:23:14AM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
The open source software component of the Nokia 770 can be downloaded from
Maemo.org as a complete filesystem, or managed as a collection of Debian
source and binary packages.
Yep, and many of the packages match the Debian
From: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS3716070830.html
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The open source software component of the Nokia 770 can be downloaded from
Maemo.org as a complete filesystem, or managed as a collection of Debian
source and binary packages.
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Hello,
From: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS3716070830.html
...
The open source software component of the Nokia 770 can be downloaded from
Maemo.org as a complete filesystem, or managed as a collection of Debian
source and binary packages.
...
Right. I have received some information from
On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 10:40:41AM +0200, Olivier Bornet wrote:
Hello,
From: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS3716070830.html
...
The open source software component of the Nokia 770 can be downloaded from
Maemo.org as a complete filesystem, or managed as a collection of Debian
source
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