Re: NoX idea

2005-03-05 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Benjamin Mesing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wondering if Debian should switch to LSB recommendation LSB recommends: 0 halt 1 single user mode 2 multiuser with no network services exported 3 normal/full multiuser 4 reserved for local use, default

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-05 Thread Sven Mueller
Henning Makholm wrote on 05/03/2005 12:17: Scripsit Benjamin Mesing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wondering if Debian should switch to LSB recommendation LSB recommends: 0 halt 1 single user mode 2 multiuser with no network services exported 3 normal/full

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Well, my point was to have a common predefined way of doing it: once you install kdm (or someone else), or move to xdm or whatever, you still can disable the start of X by putting nox in the command line, instead of having to erase the links in rc2.d. Acutally there should be no link in

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Michael Koch
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 09:04:21AM +0100, Benjamin Mesing wrote: Well, my point was to have a common predefined way of doing it: once you install kdm (or someone else), or move to xdm or whatever, you still can disable the start of X by putting nox in the command line, instead of having

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Thats not true. Read the Debian Policy. Its just that some other distributions use runlevel 2 for console mode. In Debian thats all up to the user/administrator of the system. Of course we can change this but its not true currently. Sorry, consider me spoiled by SuSE which I am forced to use

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Friday 04 March 2005 10:22, Benjamin Mesing wrote: Thats not true. Read the Debian Policy. Its just that some other distributions use runlevel 2 for console mode. In Debian thats all up to the user/administrator of the system. Of course we can change this but its not true currently.

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Benjamin Mesing
see http://www.linuxbase.org/modules.php?name=specrevurl=http://www.linuxbase.org/spec//booksets/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/set1.html for what the LSB has to say about the subject So its seems SuSE was following LSB recommendations. Just wondering if Debian should switch to LSB

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:31:06PM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote: On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:18:14AM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: If so... then it's flat-out not available on the set of systems in question Hm? it is on all my systems: # cat

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Can we assume your systems are all Linux-based Debian? Frankly I dont care about others, yes. I mean it is OK to use portable interfaces where present, I just dont think this works in all cases. In that specific case of course runlevel is already a

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-03 Thread Jesus Climent
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 02:09:00AM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I have the need some times to start a laptop with console mode what about runlevel 2? :) Well, my point was to have a common predefined way of doing it: once you install kdm (or someone

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-03 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 11:36:46PM +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from /proc/cmdline and grep for nox? I have the need some times to start a laptop with console

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-03 Thread Robert Carboneau
Joel Aelwyn wrote: It also looks like /proc/self/cmdline is more universal, if anyone did need to do something of the sort. But that's just the process's command line, isn't it? I thought they were looking for the kernel command line. -- Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-03 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 12:14:06PM -0800, Robert Carboneau wrote: Joel Aelwyn wrote: It also looks like /proc/self/cmdline is more universal, if anyone did need to do something of the sort. But that's just the process's command line, isn't it? I thought they were looking for the kernel

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-03 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: If so... then it's flat-out not available on the set of systems in question Hm? it is on all my systems: # cat /proc/cmdline auto BOOT_IMAGE=v2.6.8.1 ro root=811 Greetings Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-03 Thread Paul Hampson
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:18:14AM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: If so... then it's flat-out not available on the set of systems in question Hm? it is on all my systems: # cat /proc/cmdline auto BOOT_IMAGE=v2.6.8.1 ro root=811 Can we assume your

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Michael Koch in [EMAIL PROTECTED] is rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm not easy enough for you ? Please don't recommend rm'ing the S* links. Rename them to K* instead or else they will be recreated on the next upgrade. Christoph -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.df7cb.de/ signature.asc Description:

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Christoph Berg | Re: Michael Koch in [EMAIL PROTECTED] | is rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm not easy enough for you ? | | Please don't recommend rm'ing the S* links. Rename them to K* instead | or else they will be recreated on the next upgrade. Removing just a single link is fine. They will only be

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Sean Perry in [EMAIL PROTECTED] What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from /proc/cmdline and grep for nox? Would be neat :) Should be easy for you to do locally and since the init scripts

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Olaf Conradi
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 14:53:30 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Christoph Berg | Re: Michael Koch in [EMAIL PROTECTED] | is rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm not easy enough for you ? | | Please don't recommend rm'ing the S* links. Rename them to K* instead | or else they will be

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Michael Koch
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 02:45:26PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: Re: Michael Koch in [EMAIL PROTECTED] is rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm not easy enough for you ? Please don't recommend rm'ing the S* links. Rename them to K* instead or else they will be recreated on the next upgrade. Read the policy.

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
[No need to CC me, I'm on the list] Em Qua, 2005-03-02 s 07:06 +0100, Michael Koch escreveu: I like the idea. I sometimes miss an easy way to say don't start X, too, although most times I do want it to run. is rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm not easy enough for you ? Easy enough for me in my system.

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Tim Cutts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2 Mar 2005, at 2:58 pm, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: [No need to CC me, I'm on the list] Em Qua, 2005-03-02 às 07:06 +0100, Michael Koch escreveu: I like the idea. I sometimes miss an easy way to say don't start X, too, although most times I do

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Gustavo Noronha Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] is rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm not easy enough for you ? Easy enough for me in my system. It would be nice to have a standard way of telling the system to not start X on any Debian system while keeping X start up being the default without the need of

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Steve Greenland
On 02-Mar-05, 07:55 (CST), Christoph Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be nice for occasional no-X booting, e.g. for debugging. But then there's still single user mode for that, so wasting a whole runlevel for it doesn't seem so useful. The nox boot parameter seems much less intrusive.

NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Jesus Climent
What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from /proc/cmdline and grep for nox? I have the need some times to start a laptop with console mode, and it would be nice to just add an append to the kernel

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 11:36:46PM +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from /proc/cmdline and grep for nox? I have the need some times to start a laptop with console

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Sean Perry
Jesus Climent wrote: What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from /proc/cmdline and grep for nox? I have the need some times to start a laptop with console mode, and it would be nice to just add an

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Ter, 2005-03-01 s 23:36 +0100, Jesus Climent escreveu: What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from /proc/cmdline and grep for nox? I have the need some times to start a laptop with console

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I have the need some times to start a laptop with console mode what about runlevel 2? :) Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Michael Koch
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 09:06:41PM -0300, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: Em Ter, 2005-03-01 às 23:36 +0100, Jesus Climent escreveu: What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from /proc/cmdline and

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-01 Thread Ken Bloom
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:36:46 +0100, Jesus Climent wrote: What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from /proc/cmdline and grep for nox? I have the need some times to start a laptop with console