Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 13:02 +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > Nevertheless on the user's side there is a demand for those > codecs which can be whitnessed by the broad acceptance of unofficial > repositories [see: http://popcon.debian.org/unknown/by_inst ]. I didn't know that table existed! I

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Ben Hutchings wrote: > >> Nevertheless on the user's side there is a demand for those=20 >> codecs which can be whitnessed by the broad acceptance of unofficial=20 >> repositories [see: http://popcon.debian.org/unknown/by_inst ].=20 > > > I didn't know that table existed! It seems like it would be

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Ben Hutchings wrote: > I didn't know that table existed! It seems like it would be useful to > aggregate statistics for out-of-tree kernel module packages by stripping > off the kernel version suffix. Here's what I came up with: OK, here's a preliminary analysis of your results. There are quite

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Philippe Cloutier wrote: >> > 4 ipw3945 897 >> Replaced by (free) iwlwifi which will be present in 2.6.24. >> > iwlwifi is "contrib", like ipw3945. iwlwifi needs non-free firmware, ipw3945 needs non-free firmware and non-free userspace daemon. The "free" above was main

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Paul Wise
On 10/20/07, Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems like it would be useful to > aggregate statistics for out-of-tree kernel module packages Interestingly, Fedora has a new policy that kernel module packages must be merged with kernel.org or removed from Fedora: http://fedoraproject

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 01:44:03AM +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote: > > 25 ieee80211 109 > > 61 ieee80211softmac 14 Merged and deprecated by mac80211. > > 14 zaptel 295 > Not really considered for inclusion by upstream, yet. Not pos

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
>>> 34 thinkpad 54 > > The acpi support? No, the thinkpad modules provided a lot of useful functions for things which are done by acpi now - but back at times when acpi was not useable or didn't exist, they worked very well - and still do so for Thinkpads which can't ha

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Riku Voipio
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 11:32:26AM +1000, Paul Wise wrote: > Interestingly, Fedora has a new policy that kernel module packages > must be merged with kernel.org or removed from Fedora: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/KernelModules > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DavidWoodhouse/KmodPropos

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 12:22:32PM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote: [Fedora disallows non-upstreamed kernel modules] Very interesting. I'd say we should atleast consider it due to various points: My concern is modules in the upstream kernel which have firmware problems. While I am opposed to carryi

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Vincent Danjean
Faidon Liambotis wrote: >> 107 cisco-vpnc3 >> 143 cisco-vpnclient 1 > (free replacement exists) Which one ? vpnc does not handle connection based on certificate. If you know a free replacement of cisco-vpnclient that can handle certificates, I would be ve

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread James Westby
On (24/10/07 09:50), Bastian Blank wrote: > > > 13 loop-aes305 > > Deprecated by dm-crypt. Not entirely true. However it is not going to go in to upstream, so the effect is the same. Thanks, James -- James Westby --GPG Key ID: B577FE13-- http://jameswe

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Bastian Blank wrote: >>> 14 zaptel 295 >> Not really considered for inclusion by upstream, yet. > > Not possible to merge in the current state. I know, I'm comaintaining it :) It may be a good candidate (along with mISDN/vISDN) for Greg KH's team, however. >>> 12 kvm

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:55:12PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: > >> 107 cisco-vpnc3 > >> 143 cisco-vpnclient 1 > > (free replacement exists) > Which one ? vpnc does not handle connection based on certificate. racoon. Bastian -- No one wants war.

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Bastian Blank [Wed, Oct 24 2007, 11:36:27PM]: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:55:12PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: > > >> 107 cisco-vpnc3 > > >> 143 cisco-vpnclient 1 > > > (free replacement exists) > > Which one ? vpnc does not handle connection

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Vincent Danjean [Wed, Oct 24 2007, 08:55:12PM]: > Faidon Liambotis wrote: > >> 107 cisco-vpnc3 > >> 143 cisco-vpnclient 1 > > (free replacement exists) > > Which one ? vpnc does not handle connection based on certificate. It does (less or more

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Vincent Danjean
Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Vincent Danjean [Wed, Oct 24 2007, 08:55:12PM]: >> Faidon Liambotis wrote: 107 cisco-vpnc3 143 cisco-vpnclient 1 >>> (free replacement exists) >> Which one ? vpnc does not handle connection based on certificate.

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Vincent Danjean
Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Bastian Blank [Wed, Oct 24 2007, 11:36:27PM]: >> On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:55:12PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: > 107 cisco-vpnc3 > 143 cisco-vpnclient 1 (free replacement exists) >>> Which one ? vpnc does

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 25 Oktober 2007 schrieb Vincent Danjean: > racoon seems to be a replacement for a cisco system (server, NOT client) > > I cannot modify the server infrastructure at my work (this can change: > I'm not the only one annoyed by the cisco client). So racoon does not > seem to fit as a dro

Re: Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Philippe Cloutier
WiFi > 4 ipw3945 897 Replaced by (free) iwlwifi which will be present in 2.6.24. iwlwifi is "contrib", like ipw3945. > 25 ieee80211 109 > 61 ieee80211softmac 14 > 31 ipw2100 71 > 18 ipw2200

Re: Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Philippe Cloutier
If anyone has some time, it would be valuable to work through the list and check, which of these have been merged into Linux mainline by now (e.g. several of the wifi drivers have) and report the missing ones to Greg Kroah-H's driver project: http://www.linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view Accor

Re: Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-23 Thread Paul Wise
> According to that page "We work with the manufacturers of the specific > device to specify, develop, submit to the main kernel, and maintain the > kernel drivers." You missed this page: http://www.linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/OutOfTreeDrivers -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org