On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 01:23:12AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
That depends on what you mean by 'issue'. I think exactly the issues that
concern some people in Debian about packages of 'poor quality' being
generated
in an uncontrolled PPA system are happening with regularity in Ubuntu.
Mike Hommey, 2011-05-04 07:57:47 +0200 :
[...]
Add to that that allowing random people to upload packages to be built
on Debian build daemons is a recipe to have the buildds compromised.
My initial idea about how one would go about implementing them
involved very strict isolation of the
Heya,
Roland Mas lola...@debian.org writes:
Mike Hommey, 2011-05-04 07:57:47 +0200:
Add to that that allowing random people to upload packages to be built
on Debian build daemons is a recipe to have the buildds compromised.
My initial idea about how one would go about implementing them
On 4 May 2011 15:23, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote:
That depends on what you mean by 'issue'. I think exactly the issues that
concern some people in Debian about packages of 'poor quality' being
generated
in an uncontrolled PPA system are happening with regularity in Ubuntu.
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt, 2011-05-04 10:42:31 +0200 :
Heya,
Roland Mas lola...@debian.org writes:
Mike Hommey, 2011-05-04 07:57:47 +0200:
Add to that that allowing random people to upload packages to be built
on Debian build daemons is a recipe to have the buildds compromised.
My initial
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 08:28:00AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 01:23:12AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
I believe Debian is quite correct to be
concerned about the potential for user confusion and damage to Debian's
reputation for high quality work.
PPAs
Stefano Zacchiroli dijo [Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:56:15PM +0200]:
I think it would make quite sense to get something like e.g. ppa done for
Debian. But thats something else than it's proposed here.
Yes, absolutely. I'd even dare to say that having something like PPA for
Debian is a
Paul Tagliamonte dijo [Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:16:54AM -0400]:
AFAIU, only DD and DM could create PPA and upload to them. If this is not
the case, then I share your fears.
Usage of the PPA system on LP requires that you agree to the usage
terms (not unlike machine usage policies for
-away chroots (not for security, but don't mess with my
system reasons).
Oh... well, I took some time today to read through this gigantic
thread (expecting erupting flames but finding very interesting
discussions instead!), and had not reached this point. If Debian-PPAs
are to be limited to DDs
On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 12:34:45 PM Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Paul Tagliamonte dijo [Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:16:54AM -0400]:
AFAIU, only DD and DM could create PPA and upload to them. If this is
not the case, then I share your fears.
Usage of the PPA system on LP requires that you agree to
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 01:23:12AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
PPAs as a developer tool are one thing, PPAs as a tool for random uploads, I
think are quite another. I'd hate to see Debian make the same mistake that
Canonical did in this regard.
PPA on Debian infrastructure should be
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:56:15PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:07:24PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
I think it would make quite sense to get something like e.g. ppa done for
Debian. But thats something else than it's proposed here.
Yes, absolutely. I'd
* René Mayorga (rmayo...@debian.org) [110503 22:52]:
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:56:15PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:07:24PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
I think it would make quite sense to get something like e.g. ppa done for
Debian. But thats something
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 02:46:11PM -0600, René Mayorga wrote:
Yes, absolutely. I'd even dare to say that having something like PPA for
Debian is a priority.
I do not agree on this, if the package is good enough and has somebody willing
to maintain it, the package may belong to the
disagree with both of you, although indeed, unless explicitly
mentioned, PPAs should not be positioned as 'official', since they
are NOT.
we already have dozens of private repositories around, and it is not for
us to judge either they are of any use -- time and their use would show.
The role of
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:30:41PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 02:46:11PM -0600, René Mayorga wrote:
Yes, absolutely. I'd even dare to say that having something like PPA for
Debian is a priority.
I do not agree on this, if the package is good enough and
On Tue, 03 May 2011 at 14:46:11 -0600, René Mayorga wrote:
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:56:15PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
I'd even dare to say that having something like PPA for
Debian is a priority.
I do not agree on this, if the package is good enough and has somebody willing
to
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 00:02:01 (+0200 CEST), René Mayorga a écrit :
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:30:41PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
After all, in that respect what is the difference between that and
unofficial APT
repositories that many of us already maintain at
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Julien Valroff jul...@debian.org wrote:
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 00:02:01 (+0200 CEST), René Mayorga a écrit :
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:30:41PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
After all, in that respect what is the difference between that and
unofficial
On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 12:16:54 AM Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Julien Valroff jul...@debian.org wrote:
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 00:02:01 (+0200 CEST), René Mayorga a écrit :
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:30:41PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
After all, in
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 01:23:12AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 12:16:54 AM Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Julien Valroff jul...@debian.org wrote:
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 00:02:01 (+0200 CEST), René Mayorga a écrit :
On Tue, May 03,
I too believe PPA for Debian is a must have, I personally was
thinking of making my own repository where I would store packages
before having them pushed into Debian, even if it was for
experimental.
Putting packages on Ubuntu PPA just doesn't feel right, thus I fully
support this idea and would
Stefano Zacchiroli, 2011-04-30 12:56:15 +0200 :
[...]
What we lack for that to become a reality is just the code. Marc and
Tollef had set up a nice proposal [1] for GSoC this year and were
willing to mentor it, but unfortunately no student has shown up. If
there are people willing to
On 30 April 2011 20:56, Stefano Zacchiroli lea...@debian.org wrote:
Some FAQ on this topic:
Q: Why don't you use Launchpad's PPA?
A: Last time I looked into it (together with some Launchpad engineers at
past UDS), the PPA module was too tightly integrated with other
Launchpad parts to
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Yes, absolutely. I'd even dare to say that having something like PPA for
Debian is a priority. It would be yet another way to enable people to
experiment with big changes in Debian, showing their value, with minimum
impact on the work of others.
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:07:24PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
* Philipp Kern (tr...@philkern.de) [110430 09:49]:
It's not that it isn't meant. Of course we could also look at overlay
solutions. (That said, while I'm very happy about mozilla.debian.net, I
somehow still feel that those
* Stefano Zacchiroli (lea...@debian.org) [110430 12:56]:
What we lack for that to become a reality is just the code. Marc and
Tollef had set up a nice proposal [1] for GSoC this year and were
willing to mentor it, but unfortunately no student has shown up. If
there are people willing to
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