On 4/8/21 12:50 PM, Dominik George wrote:
The argument raised earlier, that although these games are DFSG-free, they do
not fulfill the requirement for Debian main being self-contained holds,
imho
(lutris ignores the Debian packages and installs copies of the games from
who-knows-where).
On Thu, 2021-04-08 at 12:50 +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> (lutris ignores the Debian packages and installs copies of the games
> from who-knows-where).
How is that different from PIP, NPM, Ruby Gems, Rust Cargo etc., all in
main?
For non-developer use cases, I dislike these very much as well.
Quoting Dominik George (2021-04-08 12:50:12)
> > > But neither winetricks nor lutris are wrapper packages for
> > > non-free programs — while they do allow installing and using
> > > non-free software as well, they can be used for any kidn of game
> > > or program, including free software.
> > But neither winetricks nor lutris are wrapper packages for
> > non-free programs — while they do allow installing and using non-free
> > software as well, they can be used for any kidn of game or program,
> > including free software. Lutris actually has explicit support for quite a
> > few
>
Hi,
On 04.04.21 11:17, Dominik George wrote:
That surprised me. If a package is free software, in ful laccordance
with the DFSG, why is it put into contrib? I can see where this note
comes from — the package maintainer does not want to help people
install non-free software, a point of view
Hello Dominik,
On Sun 04 Apr 2021 at 11:17AM +02, Dominik George wrote:
> That surprised me. If a package is free software, in ful laccordance
> with the DFSG, why is it put into contrib?
Just to note that anything in contrib has to be fully free and
DFSG-compliant, so the issue is not about
On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 07:57:10AM +0200, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
wrote:
>
> another way to answer the question is to find some software similar to the one
> that you want to package and see if that software is in Debian main or in
> contrib. If it is in main, then at least one DD and
On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 12:57 AM Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
wrote:
> Maybe the comparison to winetricks is not very fitting because I think
> winetricks can *only* download non-free software while lutris can also
> download
> games that their developers distribute under a DFSG license?
Quoting Simon McVittie (2021-04-04 13:55:21)
> On Sun, 04 Apr 2021 at 13:23:14 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > On 16093 March 1977, Dominik George wrote:
> > > That surprised me. If a package is free software, in ful laccordance
> > > with the DFSG, why is it put into contrib?
> >
> > There is,
On Sun, 2021-04-04 at 11:30 +0200, Stephan Lachnit wrote:
> For winetricks it is a bit more tricky as it can download non-free
> dlls afaik.
How does this compare for instance to Firefox, which can/will download
non-free binaries for DRM?
Regards
Quoting Andrey Rahmatullin (2021-04-04 12:42:47)
> On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 11:17:01AM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> > Which one do we. as a community, prefer?
> The project usually seems to prefer "free software" over "our users".
No, the project prefer what is both free software and serves our
On Sun, 04 Apr 2021 at 13:23:14 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 16093 March 1977, Dominik George wrote:
> > That surprised me. If a package is free software, in ful laccordance
> > with the DFSG, why is it put into contrib?
>
> There is, as usual, no clear answer.
>
> The policy for main is
On 16093 March 1977, Dominik George wrote:
That surprised me. If a package is free software, in ful laccordance
with the DFSG, why is it put into contrib? I can see where this note
comes from — the package maintainer does not want to help people
install non-free software, a point of view that
On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 11:17:01AM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> a) They try Debian, and find out they have to learn how the different
> package areas work, reconfigure their package sources
(they would need that anyway as they need firmware and, very probable,
nvidia-driver)
> Which one do
Hi Doinik,
I'm the Lutris Maintainer for Debian, and I completely agree with you.
However, at least for Lutris, there is no choice since we recommend
winetricks. Thus, I simply copied the copyright comment from
winetricks.
For winetricks it is a bit more tricky as it can download non-free
dlls
Hi,
I have stumbled across this note, in the d/copyright file of the
lutris package:
> Comment: lutris is not part of the Debian distribution, but is in the contrib
> archive area instead, because while lutris itself is free software, its main
> purpose is to download and install mainly
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