Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-29 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/3/28 Steve Langasek : > There is a patch for debhelper that will remove this constraint (i.e., both > upstart jobs and sysvinit scripts will be installed /together/), but there's > further groundwork to be applied in other packages before it should be > included in the Debian archive. Until t

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 03:57:47AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >So > >currently, all packages that ship upstart jobs in Ubuntu carry a delta > >between Debian and Ubuntu (or do some fancy stepping in debian/rules to make > >the upstart job visible only under the right circumstances) because the

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/29/2011 03:05 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: This is my fault, I'm afraid. Oh, another Vincent Cerf? :) So currently, all packages that ship upstart jobs in Ubuntu carry a delta between Debian and Ubuntu (or do some fancy stepping in debian/rules to make the upstart job visible only under th

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 01:06:00PM +0200, Soren Hansen wrote: > > But, if I'm not mistaking, there are things that unfortunately *have* > > to change, like the Ubuntu package using upstart-job. > I've tried, several times, to explain to you that the dependency on > upstart-job exists *exclusively*

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/28/2011 07:06 PM, Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/3/28 Thomas Goirand: On 03/28/2011 03:18 AM, Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/3/27 Thomas Goirand: For years, Debian Developers have shouted and screamed whenever someone in Ubuntu added something as benign as a patch system (so that their indvidual chan

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-28 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/3/28 Thomas Goirand : > On 03/28/2011 03:18 AM, Soren Hansen wrote: >> 2011/3/27 Thomas Goirand: >> For years, Debian Developers have shouted and screamed whenever >> someone in Ubuntu added something as benign as a patch system (so >> that their indvidual changes would be easier to absorb bac

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/28/2011 03:18 AM, Soren Hansen wrote: 2011/3/27 Thomas Goirand: I already started in fact. I took the work made in Ubuntu, and did a bit of rework (I didn't like the rules.tiny debhelper style with so many overrides, or the fact that the rules didn't use setup.py...). For years, Debian D

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 09:41:31PM +0200, Soren Hansen wrote: > Let me put this differently.. > > If there's a DD out there who wants to work *with* us and get OpenStack > (and all its dependencies, which is really the tedious part) into > Debian, I'd the *thrilled* to work with you. There's a num

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-27 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011, Soren Hansen wrote: > >   NB checkout for fixes and alternative reimplementations (e.g. in > >   Python) > I'm reliably informed that git can't work with tildes in tags correct! > (specifically in the context of git-bzr, at least). We a tag in bzr for > each version we uploa

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-27 Thread Ben Finney
Thomas Goirand writes: > Frankly, I think it's silly that there's both Git, HG and Bzr around. > It's a loss of time for everyone, when all of the above 3 seems very > close from each other in terms of functionality. The same argument applies to Debian .deb, Red Hat .rpm, and so on. The function

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 01:04:45AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > I'm considering packaging Openstack cloud computing system for > Debian. There's already another DD that expressed his interest for it. So, I've met a couple of times during the last year people from Rackspace (the company behind Op

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-27 Thread Soren Hansen
Let me put this differently.. If there's a DD out there who wants to work *with* us and get OpenStack (and all its dependencies, which is really the tedious part) into Debian, I'd the *thrilled* to work with you. There's a number of things that are needed, new packages as well as patches to existi

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-27 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/3/27 Yaroslav Halchenko : >> Also, Openstack is using bzr, and I know only (CVS and) Git. Does >> anyone have good pointers to documentation not aimed at newbies, so >> I don't waste my time too much? > > few blunt cents: I would just > > 1. use something like >   https://github.com/yarikoptic

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/28/2011 02:57 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: few blunt cents: I would just 1. use something like https://github.com/yarikoptic/git-bzr to not mess with learning bzr and operate in GIT (unless upstream relies on some bzr mechanism to embed versioning during build etc) Good idea

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-27 Thread Soren Hansen
2011/3/27 Thomas Goirand : > I already started in fact. I took the work made in Ubuntu, and did a > bit of rework (I didn't like the rules.tiny debhelper style with so > many overrides, or the fact that the rules didn't use setup.py...). For years, Debian Developers have shouted and screamed whene

Re: Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-27 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
> Is there anyone else interested? I might open a new project on > Alioth for that, if we are a lot. If we are only 2, then colab-maint > will be enough, I guess. I just wanted to express THANKS for the effort to get openstack in Debian. It would be great, and thanks for taking care about it > A

Packaging Openstack for Debian: anyone else interested?

2011-03-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi everyone, I'm considering packaging Openstack cloud computing system for Debian. There's already another DD that expressed his interest for it. I already started in fact. I took the work made in Ubuntu, and did a bit of rework (I didn't like the rules.tiny debhelper style with so many ove