Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-06 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 02:55:22AM -0800, Stephen Zander wrote: > Hi There are several reasons why they are split. 1) some compilers do not require a jvm. 2) Some things compile the classes to bytecode the will not need the jvm. This is why it is very explictly written in the java policy

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stefan Gybas
Stephen Zander wrote: Depending on the core classes does not provide javac which is what the autobuilders actually require. The build dependencies for Java packages could be for example: jikes, classpath, lib*-java (all other required Java packages) If all lib*-java packages in main depend on java1

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
Ok, I should stop reading mail at 3am... > "Simon" == Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Simon> I think the autobuilder argument is valid. Autobuilders Simon> need the classes, but not the VM. If at all, you can make Simon> the VMs depend on the core classes, so people can

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Simon" == Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Simon> I think the autobuilder argument is valid. Autobuilders Simon> need the classes, but not the VM. If at all, you can make Simon> the VMs depend on the core classes, so people can depend on Simon> the core classes for c

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Simon Richter
Stephen, > Ola, we go round and round on this. Having java1-runtime only mean > the java.* classes doesn't add anything. Packages shouldn't have to > depend on two virtual packages; java1-rutime should be a superset of > the functionality of java-virual-machine not a disjoint set. I think the a

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> This is false. If the package provides the core classes it Ola> should provide java1-runtime but NOT java-virtual-machine. If Ola> it provides the virtual-machine it should provide Ola> java-virtual-machine. If this is no

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Ola" == Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ola> This is false. If the package provides the core classes it Ola> should provide java1-runtime but NOT java-virtual-machine. If Ola> it provides the virtual-machine it should provide Ola> java-virtual-machine. If this is no

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:43:55PM -0800, Stephen Zander wrote: > > "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Stefan> Currently the following packages in testing provide > Stefan> java1-runtime: gij-3.0, gij-3.2, orp-classpath and > Stefan> sablevm. All of them include

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stefan> Currently the following packages in testing provide Stefan> java1-runtime: gij-3.0, gij-3.2, orp-classpath and Stefan> sablevm. All of them include (or depend on) a Java virtual Stefan> machine so if I add this depen

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-12-04 Thread Stefan Gybas
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:33:49AM -0800, Stephen Zander wrote: > To that end I will be filing important bugs against any lib*-java > package that does not depend on either java1-runtime or java2-runtime > (should the package required features of the standard java.* classes > that are only include

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-11-27 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> errr... shouldn't you decide on the name first, then file Brian> bug reports? A reasonable point & I'll do so. I don't, however, expect the name to change as that would introduce a third virtual package into the mix. Tow, java-

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-11-27 Thread Brian May
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:33:49AM -0800, Stephen Zander wrote: > To that end I will be filing important bugs against any lib*-java > package that does not depend on either java1-runtime or java2-runtime > (should the package required features of the standard java.* classes > that are only included

Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-11-27 Thread Stephen Zander
There are a significant number of lib*-java packages whose only dependency is on java-common. While the java policy has condoned this behaviour in the past, it is non-sensical to do in the same way it is non-sensical of C libraries not to depend on libc. This is due to the use of standard java.*