Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
To see which popular packages are missing in Debian/main at the moment, I decided to compare the list of popular pckaages in Ubuntu with the list of packages in Debian/main. The result was interesting. There are at the moment 823762 reports colleected in popcon.ubuntu.com. I decided to use 5000

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should we try to get any of these packages into Debian/main? I think it is up to their Ubuntu maintainers or any Debian people who use them or want them in Debian to get them into Debian main/contrib/non-free. --

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 04:05:09PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > comparing these lists give this list of 152 > packages only in Ubuntu and not in Debian/main: > > acroread It would be useful to (i) only include packages from Ubuntu universe/main, and (ii) maybe edit it a bit to remove th

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2008-11-30, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > kdebase-workspace-bin > kde-window-manager is in experimental. > system-config-printer-common > system-config-printer-gnome I am planning to request this split of system-config-printer quite soon, so that we when next kde

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 06:06:38PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 04:05:09PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > comparing these lists give this list of 152 > > packages only in Ubuntu and not in Debian/main: > > acroread > It would be useful to (i) only include packag

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 04:05:09PM +0100]: > (...) > acroread acroread-escript FWIW, I find this quite strange... I know many non-FS users assume that the good PDF reader is the Acrobat PDF reader. However, I find it quite inferior both in usability and on quality to evinc

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Daniel Moerner
With regard to the thread proper: As far as packages that are not currently in Debian, dkms has already obviously been discussed. apturl seems interesting, however. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 04:05:09PM +

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Daniel Moerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > apturl seems interesting, however. Debian already has aptlinex so apturl isn't needed. Might be a good idea for the two upstreams of these packages to get them merged. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise --

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-11-30 Thread Daniel Baumann
Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Does anybody > know why on Earth is Acroread popular? There are some features that are present in e.g. evince, but are, arguable though, more 'advanced' implemented in adobe reader (e.g. better zooming capabilities as alreayd someone said). however, there are two 'features' t

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 30 novembre 2008 à 20:59 -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit : > However, I find it > quite inferior both in usability and on quality to evince - Even now > that evince does properly(?) support provisions disallowing copying > from or printing a PDF. This “support” is disabled by default. Chee

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Henning Glawe
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 08:59:31PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody > know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Do you know any alternative PDF viewer which can be used to fill out PDF forms? My employer uses them quite a lot for things li

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gunnar Wolf wrote: > But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody > know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly > handled in a saner way with Evince (or kde-based lookalike) in some > distributions? Zillions

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi Dne Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:26:51 + Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a): > nvidia-settings > Maybe this one belongs in contrib? This one already is in contrib: http://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-settings -- Michal Čihař | http://cihar.com | http://blog.cihar.com si

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008, Henning Glawe wrote: > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 08:59:31PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody > > know why on Earth is Acroread popular? > > Do you know any alternative PDF viewer which can be used to fill out PDF >

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Hi On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 04:05:09PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > This is how I made the list: > > GET http://popcon.ubuntu.com/by_vote.gz | gunzip > ubuntu-by_vote-all > GET http://popcon.debian.org/main/by_vote.gz | gunzip > debian-by_vote-main > grep -v '#' ubuntu-by_vote-all

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 01 décembre 2008 à 10:26 +, Tzafrir Cohen a écrit : > libcamel1.2-14 > libgnome-desktop-2-7 > libgucharmap7 Already in experimental or soon to be. > libcryptui0 Different packaging. > libebackend1.2-0 > libedataserver1.2-11 New versions, soon to be in experimental.

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 10:26:51AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Stuff that will not be in main. It's great stuff for off-topic threads: > Non-free "patented": > avidemux > dvdrip > gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse > gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse > lame > transcode > v

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 01, Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody > know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly I need it to view some large/complex PDF files with reasonable performace. Developers of free PDF viewers feel f

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anybody know why on Earth is Acroread popular? it is the only pdf viewer I know of that features full text search over several PDFs. An increadibly useful feature if you have a heap of PDFs and you don't know in what file exactly the information is y

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:26:51 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > The following strike me at first as a bit Ubuntu-specific. That is not > to say that that they are not interesting. Please don't flame here but > point out those interesting packages for Debian. > > Ubuntu-specific?: > [..] > kubuntu

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
Marco d'Itri a écrit : > On Dec 01, Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody >> know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly > I need it to view some large/complex PDF files with reasonable > performace. > De

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marco d'Itri: > On Dec 01, Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody >> know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly > I need it to view some large/complex PDF files with reasonable > performace. Have you

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 01 décembre 2008 à 14:02 +0100, Reinhard Tartler a écrit : > > Does anybody know why on Earth is Acroread popular? > > it is the only pdf viewer I know of that features full text search over > several PDFs. An increadibly useful feature if you have a heap of PDFs > and you don't know in w

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 06:04:50PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Marco d'Itri: > > On Dec 01, Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody > >> know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly > > > I need it

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Andreas Metzler
Henning Glawe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 08:59:31PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >> But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody >> know why on Earth is Acroread popular? > Do you know any alternative PDF viewer which can be used to fill out PDF > forms

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jonathan McDowell: > On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 06:04:50PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Marco d'Itri: >> > On Dec 01, Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody >> >> know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PD

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 01, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you tried evince? For some reason, it used to be faster than the > other free viewers (including xpdf itself). Yes. Nowadays it's better indeed: after freezing the UI for 30 seconds while the CPU spins at full speed and reaching a RSS of

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 01 Dez 2008, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Yes. Nowadays it's better indeed: after freezing the UI for 30 seconds > while the CPU spins at full speed and reaching a RSS of 150 MB I can Agreed, it is an overloaded something, unfortunately still xpdf is the only decent replacement, but it lacks s

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
Marco d'Itri a écrit : > On Dec 01, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Have you tried evince? For some reason, it used to be faster than the >> other free viewers (including xpdf itself). > Yes. Nowadays it's better indeed: after freezing the UI for 30 seconds > while the CPU spins at

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 08:10:36PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Jonathan McDowell: > > > On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 06:04:50PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> * Marco d'Itri: > >> > On Dec 01, Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu li

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mo, 01 Dez 2008, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: > That would be because Evince (as does xpdf, and probably others) render > the whole file, even though the display window shows only a small part Right, and that is a pain. A friend has programmed a Windows version using fltk, texlua (lua interpre

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 01, Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That would be because Evince (as does xpdf, and probably others) render > the whole file, even though the display window shows only a small part > of the file. I often zoom at 800%, sometimes 1600%, on a A0 map. How? The user interface

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Michael Banck
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 10:19:42PM +, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > That wasn't the point I was trying to make; I was asking a genuine > question about the status of evince (and would have been delighted to > have been pointed at a repo with experimental code I could try out). Were you looking fo

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 22:41 +0100, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: > That would be because Evince (as does xpdf, and probably others) render > the whole file, even though the display window shows only a small part > of the file. Fixing this is on the roadmap[0] for Evince 2.26, but I don't know if

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Craigevil
While not in official Debian repos, the ones that aren't in non-free are in the Debian-multimedia.org repo and quite a few are in backports.org. While a few are Ubuntu specific packages, that would have little to no value in Debian. LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-01 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
Marco d'Itri a écrit : > On Dec 01, Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That would be because Evince (as does xpdf, and probably others) render >> the whole file, even though the display window shows only a small part >> of the file. I often zoom at 800%, sometimes 1600%, on a A

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2008-12-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-11-30 20:59:31, schrieb Gunnar Wolf: > Does anybody > know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly > handled in a saner way with Evince (or kde-based lookalike) in some > distributions? ..because I do not use GNOME and KDE and it does not suck several 100 MByte o

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2016-04-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
A while back, I made a list of popular packages in Ubuntu that were missing in Debian/main. Just for fun, I created the list again today. It look at all packages with more than 5000 votes in the Ubuntu popularity contest results, and compare the packages to Debian main. adobe-flashplugin appme

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2016-04-26 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
Hello, Looking at the list none of it makes sense in Debian, and the query is inherently biased. This is simply the list of packages installed by default on an Ubuntu Desktop default installation. There are some additions - e.g. nvidia stuff is automatically installed through ubuntu-drivers, if n

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2016-04-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2016-04-26 14:05:44) > > A while back, I made a list of popular packages in Ubuntu that were > missing in Debian/main. Just for fun, I created the list again today. > It look at all packages with more than 5000 votes in the Ubuntu > popularity contest results, and com

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2016-04-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Dimitri John Ledkov] > Hello, Hi. :) > Looking at the list none of it makes sense in Debian, Aha. Thank you for looking into it. I was not sure about a few of them, for example the OpenGL toolkit nux-tools/nux, the Gnome screen resolution applet extention screen-resolution-extra and the reada

Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main

2016-04-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2016-04-26 at 14:40 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (2016-04-26 14:05:44) > > > > > > A while back, I made a list of popular packages in Ubuntu that were > > missing in Debian/main.  Just for fun, I created the list again > > today. > > It look at all packages

Why is acroread so popular? (Was: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main)

2008-11-30 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Gunnar Wolf] > But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody > know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly > handled in a saner way with Evince (or kde-based lookalike) in some > distributions? It is also popular in Debian. I asked the same question over

Why acroread is popular (Was: Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main)

2008-12-02 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Michelle Konzack wrote: > ..because I do not use GNOME and KDE and it does not suck several > 100 MByte of useless GNOME and KDE libs! 'evince-gtk' package pulls much less dependencies, I am using it with XFCE. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com Ukrainia

Promoting free PDF readers (was Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main)

2008-12-04 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 11:12:55 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Gunnar Wolf wrote: >> But anyway, and knowing this is not an Ubuntu list... Does anybody >> know why on Earth is Acroread popular? Why isn't a PDF regularly >> handled in a saner way with Evince (or kde-based lookalike) in

Re: Why acroread is popular (Was: Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main)

2008-12-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 17:15 +0200, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > Michelle Konzack wrote: > > ..because I do not use GNOME and KDE and it does not suck several > > 100 MByte of useless GNOME and KDE libs! > 'evince-gtk' package pulls much less dependencies, I am using it with XFCE. There's al

Re: Why acroread is popular (Was: Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main)

2008-12-02 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > Michelle Konzack wrote: >> ..because I do not use GNOME and KDE and it does not suck several >> 100 MByte of useless GNOME and KDE libs! > 'evince-gtk' package pulls much less dependencies, I am using it with XFCE. Since 2.24 (which is in experimental) the evinc

Re: Why acroread is popular (Was: Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main)

2008-12-02 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar, 2008-12-02 at 16:33 +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > There's also epdfview, described as "in the lines of Evince but > without > using the GNOME libraries". > > It uses Poppler, but otherwise I have no idea how it compares to > Evince. It's really nice and light, but not as feature-rich

Re: Why acroread is popular (Was: Re: Popular packages in Ubuntu that is missing in Debian/main)

2008-12-03 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 02 décembre 2008 à 19:08 +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort a écrit : > Since 2.24 (which is in experimental) the evince package doesn't link to > unneeded dependencies anymore, making the evince-gtk package pointless. So now > you will be able to install the evince package with the same result