Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-29 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 05:37:00PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be the mail server, I get this error when I send to an Alioth list: Aug 27 17:26:48

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-29 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 08:59:21AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: accessible mail server. The point is that I only experience this problem with Alioth and SourceForge lists, where they use braindead call back mechanism to try and reach the host

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-29 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On the other hand, I already tried to discuss that problem with you guys (alioth admin team) in May 2006; nothing really came out of it. Wichert questioned that it was a problem at all, I (tried to) explain why it was a problem, nothing further

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-29 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Roberto C. Sanchez [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:10:22 -0400]: Nope, that won't help. Knowing you use Mutt, and unless your MTA is configured in a quite restrictive way, this should solve your problems: % echo set envelope_from=yes ~/.muttrc That did it. Now, care to explain why/how?

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-29 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 07:24:31AM -1000, Adeodato Simó wrote: * Roberto C. Sanchez [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:10:22 -0400]: Nope, that won't help. Knowing you use Mutt, and unless your MTA is configured in a quite restrictive way, this should solve your problems: % echo set

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Roberto C. Sanchez [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:45:30 -0400]: Interesting. My previous attempt at solving this was to have mutt explicitly set the Return-Path header. However, it did not work. I don't know if it was because postfix on my gateway host stripped it or rewrote it, or if it is just

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 08:06:37AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: * Roberto C. Sanchez [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:45:30 -0400]: Interesting. My previous attempt at solving this was to have mutt explicitly set the Return-Path header. However, it did not work. I don't know if it was because

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: accessible mail server. The point is that I only experience this problem with Alioth and SourceForge lists, where they use braindead call back mechanism to try and reach the host that originated the message. I'm an Alioth administrator. If you

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 28, Raphael Hertzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm an Alioth administrator. If you expect help from us, you'd better not say that our configuration is braindead. This is the most basic thing that we can do to avoid spam. It is not braindead, but antisocial. sender verification is evil

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 08:59:21AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: accessible mail server. The point is that I only experience this problem with Alioth and SourceForge lists, where they use braindead call back mechanism to try and reach the host

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 8/28/06, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No offense, but that is completely non-scalable. That only works for a small number of users which does not change frequently. Anyhow, thanks to 'Dato, I seem to have been able to convince mutt to play nicer with your mail server. Yeah.

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 06:48:31AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Out of curiousity, if this is such a good thing why are Alioth and SourceForge the only two services (of the dozens of mailing lists from half dozen or more services) which use this setup? Also, why is the error message

Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be the mail server, I get this error when I send to an Alioth list: Aug 27 17:26:48 santiago postfix/smtp[23682]: 4A8002403D: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Roberto C. Sanchez said: Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be the mail server, I get this error when I send to an Alioth list: Aug 27 17:26:48 santiago

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 02:18:12AM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: This one time, at band camp, Roberto C. Sanchez said: Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be the mail server, I get this error

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 8/28/06, Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the message suggests to me is that the other machines in your domain should be using address rewriting if they are sending from unroutable addresses. Except that there are multiple domains hosted from my network. Which should I

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Martijn van Oosterhout [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:22:40 +0200]: I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it matters what domain, the address just has to exist. I think that they're checking your Sender header (which is where bounces get sent) for validity. Almost. They're checking his envelope-from

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:22:40AM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it matters what domain, the address just has to exist. I think that they're checking your Sender header (which is where bounces get sent) for validity. I remember dealing with this

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:38:56AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: * Martijn van Oosterhout [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:22:40 +0200]: I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it matters what domain, the address just has to exist. I think that they're checking your Sender header (which is where bounces