Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2013-04-27 at 10:13 +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: > Dear Ben! > > On 27/04/13 00:46, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] > > However, I would expect the vast majority of installations to be on > > amd64, so if you always generate a 64-bit little-endian database > > and avoid duplicating when installin

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:46:44PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 03:21:43PM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: > > On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote: > > [...] > > > You can use xz for the source and binary package to reduce the size. The > > > default compression level for xz

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-27 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Dear Ben! On 27/04/13 00:46, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 03:21:43PM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: >> Dear FTP Masters! >> >> On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote: >> [...] >>> You can use xz for the source and binary package to reduce the size. The >>> default compression level

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 03:21:43PM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: > Dear FTP Masters! > > On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote: > [...] > > You can use xz for the source and binary package to reduce the size. The > > default compression level for xz reduces the size of the source tarball > > from 4

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-26 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Dear FTP Masters! On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote: [...] > You can use xz for the source and binary package to reduce the size. The > default compression level for xz reduces the size of the source tarball > from 415 MB to 272 MB: > > $ ls -1s --si metastudent-data_1.0.0.tar* > 823M metas

Re: Re: Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hello Simon! Thank you for these suggestions. On 24/04/13 13:06, Simon McVittie wrote: > On 23/04/13 10:48, Laszlo Kajan wrote: >> free packages that depend on big (e.g. >400MB) free data outside 'main' > > This comes up in the Games Team, too. > > Here are some possibilities you might not have

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Olivier Sallou
On 04/24/2013 04:02 PM, Laszlo Kajan wrote: > Hello Didier! > > On 24/04/13 09:32, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: >> Le mardi, 23 avril 2013 12.23:23, Andreas Tille a écrit : >>> I would even go that far that it might make sense to package these data >>> and upload it to demonstrate that we should *r

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hello Didier! On 24/04/13 09:32, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mardi, 23 avril 2013 12.23:23, Andreas Tille a écrit : >> I would even go that far that it might make sense to package these data >> and upload it to demonstrate that we should *really* create a solution >> for such cases if they wi

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hi Olivier! On 24/04/13 08:20, Olivier Sallou wrote: > > On 04/23/2013 11:48 AM, Laszlo Kajan wrote: >> Dear Russ, Debian Med Team, Charles! >> >> (Please keep Tobias Hamp in replies.) >> >> @Russ: Please allow me to include you in a discussion about a few >> bioinformatics packages that depend

Re: Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Simon McVittie
On 23/04/13 10:48, Laszlo Kajan wrote: > free packages that depend on big (e.g. >400MB) free data outside 'main' This comes up in the Games Team, too. Here are some possibilities you might not have considered: * Package a small "demo" data-set (enough to test that the package is working correc

Re: Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:32:52AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mardi, 23 avril 2013 12.23:23, Andreas Tille a écrit : > > I would even go that far that it might make sense to package these data > > and upload it to demonstrate that we should *really* create a solution > > for such cases

Re: Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mardi, 23 avril 2013 12.23:23, Andreas Tille a écrit : > I would even go that far that it might make sense to package these data > and upload it to demonstrate that we should *really* create a solution > for such cases if they will increase in the number and size of data > packages. Isn't that

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-24 Thread Olе Streicher
Olivier Sallou writes: > Indeed, many bioinformatics programs relies on external data. But I am afraid > that if we start to add some data packages, we will open an endless open > door BioInformatics datasets are large, and becoming huge and numerous. > This size will be an issue for Debian mi

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Olivier Sallou
On 04/23/2013 11:48 AM, Laszlo Kajan wrote: > Dear Russ, Debian Med Team, Charles! > > (Please keep Tobias Hamp in replies.) > > @Russ: Please allow me to include you in a discussion about a few > bioinformatics packages that depend on big, but free data [2]. I have cited > your opinion [3] in th

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Laszlo Kajan writes: > On 23/04/13 18:48, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Discussing it on debian-devel seems right, but I would also draw it to >> ftp-master's attention, since they're the people who have to worry >> about archive size). We can easily move on to modifying Policy if >> there's a consensu

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Dear Russ! Thank you for getting back to me. On 23/04/13 18:48, Russ Allbery wrote: > Laszlo Kajan writes: > >> This email is to continue the discussion about free packages that depend >> on big (e.g. >400MB) free data outside 'main'. These packages apparently >> violate policy 2.2.1 [0] for in

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hello Benjamin! On 23/04/13 15:13, Benjamin Drung wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 13:51 +0200 schrieb Laszlo Kajan: >> Hello Andreas! >> >> On 23/04/13 12:23, Andreas Tille wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:48:05AM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: This email is to continue the discus

Re: Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Laszlo Kajan writes: > This email is to continue the discussion about free packages that depend > on big (e.g. >400MB) free data outside 'main'. These packages apparently > violate policy 2.2.1 [0] for inclusion in 'main' because they require > software outside the 'main' area to function. They d

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Dienstag, den 23.04.2013, 13:51 +0200 schrieb Laszlo Kajan: > Hello Andreas! > > On 23/04/13 12:23, Andreas Tille wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:48:05AM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: > >> > >> This email is to continue the discussion about free packages that > >> depend on big (e.g. >400MB)

Re: [Debian-med-packaging] Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Hello Andreas! On 23/04/13 12:23, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:48:05AM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: >> >> This email is to continue the discussion about free packages that depend on >> big (e.g. >400MB) free data outside 'main'. > > In your practical case is this data say <500

Re: Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:48:05AM +0200, Laszlo Kajan wrote: > > This email is to continue the discussion about free packages that depend on > big (e.g. >400MB) free data outside 'main'. In your practical case is this data say <500MB? Are we talking about compressed or uncompressed data (= >40

Question about proper archive area for packages that require big data for operation

2013-04-23 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Dear Russ, Debian Med Team, Charles! (Please keep Tobias Hamp in replies.) @Russ: Please allow me to include you in a discussion about a few bioinformatics packages that depend on big, but free data [2]. I have cited your opinion [3] in this discussion before. You are on the technical committee