Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > I seem to remember some more tech info is in the HN thread: > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11390545 Actually it was this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11388418 Re fork, they implemented that in the Windows kernel and expo

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > As I commented on Dustin's blog, I'm also interested in more technical > details: I seem to remember some more tech info is in the HN thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11390545 > Some Linux programs will be easy to support, som

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Simon Dann
> > Linux/Unix is more than just the syscalls, there's quite a few places > where the Windows model just doesn't match up with the Unix model: > processes, threads, filesystem/VFS semantics, ... > > How does fork() work? How does file locking work with things like > shared libraries in this setup?

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Steve McIntyre
z...@debian.org wrote: >On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 03:03:18PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> Quite ingenious really. > >I'm curious about the set of syscalls they've implemented, and in >particular about which non-POSIX (but Linux) syscalls are in that set. >Has anyone seen that list yet? As I commented

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 31, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I think we should. It will help Windows users use less proprietary > software in their daily lives, and my very well work as a "gateway drug" > to 100% Free Software in the long run. Agreed. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 03:03:18PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Quite ingenious really. I'm curious about the set of syscalls they've implemented, and in particular about which non-POSIX (but Linux) syscalls are in that set. Has anyone seen that list yet? > I wonder if we should start offering Debia

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-31 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote: > This solution does not need to reimplement any library functions, as they can > take everything from the unpacked Ubuntu rootfs and then "just" need to handle > the Linux systemcalls correctly. Quite ingenious really. I wonder if we shoul

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-30 Thread Johannes Schauer
Quoting Paul Wise (2016-03-31 08:42:58) > On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote: > > It looks mightily impressive! When I read about this originally I didn't > > find a link with so many details and even screenshots - thanks for that! It > > seems they can even run apt (and thus d

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote: > It looks mightily impressive! When I read about this originally I didn't find > a > link with so many details and even screenshots - thanks for that! It seems > they > can even run apt (and thus dpkg) with this "reversed wine" :D Seems

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-30 Thread Johannes Schauer
Quoting Paul Wise (2016-03-30 19:52:51) > Looks like Microsoft went with a Linux syscall emulation layer for the > Windows kernel: > > http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html if I understand it correctly, then this should indeed solve Eric's original message. It looks mighti

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-30 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
On 30 March 2016 at 14:52, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > I think your message would be better addressed to the debian-devel > mailing > > list, who I have copied in to this reply so that more Debian Developers > are > > aware of it. (There's a

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-30 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> I think your message would be better addressed to the debian-devel mailing >> list, who I have copied in to this reply so that more Debian Developers are >> aware of it. (There's als

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-03-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I think your message would be better addressed to the debian-devel mailing > list, who I have copied in to this reply so that more Debian Developers are > aware of it. (There's also the Apt developer's mailing list at the > harder-to-dis

RE: RE: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-29 Thread Eric Mittelette
Thanks Fabian, that make sense, we also having a look at this eric -Original Message- From: Fabian Greffrath [mailto:fab...@debian.org] Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 8:46 AM To: Eric Mittelette Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: RE: Debian package on Windows Hi there

Re: RE: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-29 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Hi there, for my occasional development on Windows I use Msys2 which have Arch's pacman package management system ported to Windows and even provide a huge repository of pre-compiled package. It's not APT, but at least a reasonable packaging system and a bash shell on Windows to begin with. ;) Be

Re: Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-28 Thread igor80
> I could be useful to create a Debian GNU/ReactOS port to avoid the > proprietary software dependency of a cross-compiled-only port. Really? Wow! -- igor

RE: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-26 Thread Eric Mittelette
+ > From: j...@debian.org<mailto:j...@debian.org> > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org<mailto:debian-devel@lists.debian.org> > CC: ericm...@microsoft.com<mailto:ericm...@microsoft.com>; debian-apa...@lists.debian.org<mailto:debian-apa...@lists.debian.org> >

RE: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-26 Thread Eric Mittelette
@lists.debian.org; Eric Mittelette Subject: Re: Debian package on Windows On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Guillem Jover wrote: > I think people in general have concluded that such a port would be > mostly useful only to cross-build, but not to run stuff. I could be useful to create a Debian GNU/R

RE: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-26 Thread Eric Mittelette
Subject: Re: Debian package on Windows Hi, Eric Mittelette wrote: > I'm PM in the Visual C++ Team (VC Lib to be precise here at > Microsoft), we started to think about lib acquisition (still a painful > process for > C++ on Windows) and we are imaging different options, one is to

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-25 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Eric Mittelette wrote: > I'm PM in the Visual C++ Team (VC Lib to be precise here at Microsoft), > we started to think about lib acquisition (still a painful process for > C++ on Windows) and we are imaging different options, one is to port > apt-get on Windows. > Porting Apt-Get mean using

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Guillem Jover wrote: > I think people in general have concluded that such a port would be mostly > useful only to cross-build, but not to run stuff. I could be useful to create a Debian GNU/ReactOS port to avoid the proprietary software dependency of a cross-compi

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2016-02-22 at 14:05:33 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > [ for -devel: this is a reply to a post to debian-apache, please see > https://lists.debian.org/debian-apache/2016/02/msg4.html ] Inlining parts of that mail here: > On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 01:09:18 +, Eric Mittelette wrot

RE: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-22 Thread Josh Max
000 > From: j...@debian.org > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > CC: ericm...@microsoft.com; debian-apa...@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Debian package on Windows > > [ for -devel: this is a reply to a post to debian-apache, please see > https://lists.debian.org/debian-apac

Re: Debian package on Windows

2016-02-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
[ for -devel: this is a reply to a post to debian-apache, please see https://lists.debian.org/debian-apache/2016/02/msg4.html ] Hi Eric, I think your message would be better addressed to the debian-devel mailing list, who I have copied in to this reply so that more Debian Developers are awa