On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 12:01:43AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
Kind of reviving an old thread, but anyway:
It also includes, but afaics, probably doesn't need to (anymore):
ispell, dictionaries-common, iamerican, ibritish, wamerican
#416572: ibritish: Should not have priority standard
Kind of reviving an old thread, but anyway:
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 07:12:35PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
I believe it to be one of the more important bits of a standard Unix
*desktop* installation - but this just reminds me of the fact that I'm
quite uncomfortable with keeping a
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 07:12:35PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also, do we really need *any* printing system as priority: standard? It's
not clear to me that printing is still really part of a standard
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 07:12:35PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also, do we really need *any* printing system as priority: standard? It's
not clear to me that printing is still really part of a standard Unix
installation, even for desktop
Le lundi 12 novembre 2007 à 12:08 -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit :
I'm assuming that re-raising the priority of lpr is not a reasonable means
of addressing this, since that's now a completely separate printing
implementation than the one used by default on the desktop now and AFAICS it
Russ Allbery wrote:
Bernd Zeimetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not sure if anybody is still using the old BSD printing stuff - at least
I can't see any reason why it should have a higher priority than
optional.
I am. It's simple and it works, and CUPS seems ridiculously bloated for
the
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Way back when, “standard” was defined as stuff that an old UNIX
hand would say “WTF happened to that?” if it is not present on a
default install. While I am unsure of this definition of standard still
holds, but as an old UNIX hand I can say that if I am
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:21:46AM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
[lpr is standard on Unix]
That works well with cups if you have the cupsys-bsd package installed.
More importantly, programs (gv comes to mind) that don't have native
printing support but use an
Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also, do we really need *any* printing system as priority: standard? It's
not clear to me that printing is still really part of a standard Unix
installation, even for desktop users (and it definitely isn't for
servers).
I believe it to be one of the
[not subscribed to -policy, just keeping original cross-posting]
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
I think we may want to start thinking about getting rid of the whole
thing and switching to something which allows us to express more complex
importance measurements for packages. In fact, d-i and
On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:05:36AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
Yes, it would make more sense for samba to default to CUPS, if there's
some reason it can't probe/support both,
Well, because there's no code written to do this, and anyway supporting both
at the same time would likely be messy and
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 09:42:52PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
- Should we consider raising the priority of cupsys to standard, to take the
place of lpr as an available-by-default printing system on stock installs?
The last time I looked at CUPS, it was massively more complicated than lpr
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
A few years back, Samba upstream began using CUPS as the default printing
system whenever CUPS support was enabled. At the time, cupsys was Priority:
optional, and lpr as the standard Unix printing interface was Priority:
standard (or higher), so I
A few years back, Samba upstream began using CUPS as the default printing
system whenever CUPS support was enabled. At the time, cupsys was Priority:
optional, and lpr as the standard Unix printing interface was Priority:
standard (or higher), so I patched the Samba packages in Debian to default
I don't have any objections to Samba switching, but for the rest:
Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
- Should we consider raising the priority of cupsys to standard, to take the
place of lpr as an available-by-default printing system on stock installs?
The last time I looked at CUPS,
lpr's standard priority nonwithstanding, CUPS has been the default print
system in Debian -- if you select the desktop or print server tasks --
for at least the last two releases. This is why popcon shows 5000 lpr
installations to 45000 cupsys installations.
Yes, it would make more sense for
Russ Allbery wrote:
Also, do we really need *any* printing system as priority: standard? It's
not clear to me that printing is still really part of a standard Unix
installation, even for desktop users (and it definitely isn't for
servers).
I'd guess most Desktop installations have a
Bernd Zeimetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not sure if anybody is still using the old BSD printing stuff - at least
I can't see any reason why it should have a higher priority than
optional.
I am. It's simple and it works, and CUPS seems ridiculously bloated for
the only printing need I have
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:42:52 -0800, Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Also, do we really need *any* printing system as priority: standard?
It's not clear to me that printing is still really part of a standard
Unix installation, even for desktop users (and it definitely isn't for
servers).
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