Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 13, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote: >I think it makes more sense to have a release or two where users can >fall back on python2. Well there needs to be at least one >where /usr/bin/python becomes python3 alerting users to the change and >giving them the python2 fallback, just so

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-13 Thread Michael Gilbert
Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > [Michael Gilbert, 2011-04-13] > > Can't that be solved in the release notes when that happens? Something > > like: > > > > python3 is now the default /usr/bin/python, so if you have existing > > python2 scripts you will need to make sure to use /usr/bin/python2 >

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-13 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Michael Gilbert, 2011-04-13] > Can't that be solved in the release notes when that happens? Something > like: > > python3 is now the default /usr/bin/python, so if you have existing > python2 scripts you will need to make sure to use /usr/bin/python2 > instead (or convert them to pyt

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-13 Thread Michael Gilbert
Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 09:22:44 AM Barry Warsaw wrote: > > On Apr 11, 2011, at 07:22 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > >Hopefully it will gain additional sanity before approval (the authors did > > >improve it based on comments I sent them it could still be better). The

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 09:22:44 AM Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Apr 11, 2011, at 07:22 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >Hopefully it will gain additional sanity before approval (the authors did > >improve it based on comments I sent them it could still be better). The > >notion that /usr/bin/python

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 11, 2011, at 07:22 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >Hopefully it will gain additional sanity before approval (the authors did >improve it based on comments I sent them it could still be better). The >notion that /usr/bin/python pointing to any python3 version in the near term >is anything other

Re: Python 3 as default? (Re: "Python2.6 as default")

2011-04-13 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Adrian von Bidder, 2011-04-13] > Agreed. However, it would be interesting to track which of the bg/major > python packages/frameworks are not available on Python3 yet, if only as a > reference for the next time somebody proposes to have /usr/bin/python be a > Python 3. > > http://wiki.debian.o

Re: Python 3 as default? (Re: "Python2.6 as default")

2011-04-13 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 08:46, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > Agreed. However, it would be interesting to track which of the bg/major > python packages/frameworks are not available on Python3 yet, if only as a > reference for the next time somebody proposes to have /usr/bin/python be a > Python 3. > >

Python 3 as default? (Re: "Python2.6 as default")

2011-04-12 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Hi, On Tuesday 12 April 2011 01.22:55 Scott Kitterman wrote: > The notion that /usr/bin/python pointing to any python3 version in the > near term is anything other than crazy talk is, well, crazy. Agreed. However, it would be interesting to track which of the bg/major python packages/frameworks

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
Barry Warsaw wrote: >On Apr 09, 2011, at 01:38 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >>We've treated python and python3 as separate runtime environments. We >also >>have a default python3 (just in the middle of transitioning to 3.2). >The >>only meaningful change that would make python3 the 'default pyt

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-11 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Apr 09, 2011, at 01:38 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >We've treated python and python3 as separate runtime environments. We also >have a default python3 (just in the middle of transitioning to 3.2). The >only meaningful change that would make python3 the 'default python' is if we >pointed /usr/b

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-09 Thread Michael Checca
On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 13:49:17 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Saturday, April 09, 2011 01:26:12 PM Andreas Barth wrote: * Scott Kitterman (deb...@kitterman.com) [110409 19:07]: > Obviously that was a Squeeze goal. The equivalent goal for Wheezy should > be python2.7 as default and python

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, April 09, 2011 01:26:12 PM Andreas Barth wrote: > * Scott Kitterman (deb...@kitterman.com) [110409 19:07]: > > Obviously that was a Squeeze goal. The equivalent goal for Wheezy should > > be python2.7 as default and python2.5 and python2.6 removed. > > Sure. Please feel free to fix t

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, April 09, 2011 01:33:01 PM Michael Gilbert wrote: > Scott Kitterman wrote: > > I noticed that this is still listed at > > http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals. > > > > Obviously that was a Squeeze goal. The equivalent goal for Wheezy should > > be python2.7 as default and python2.5 an

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-09 Thread Michael Gilbert
Scott Kitterman wrote: > I noticed that this is still listed at http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals. > > Obviously that was a Squeeze goal. The equivalent goal for Wheezy should be > python2.7 as default and python2.5 and python2.6 removed. Is it out of the question to target python3.x as the

Re: "Python2.6 as default"

2011-04-09 Thread Andreas Barth
* Scott Kitterman (deb...@kitterman.com) [110409 19:07]: > Obviously that was a Squeeze goal. The equivalent goal for Wheezy should be > python2.7 as default and python2.5 and python2.6 removed. Sure. Please feel free to fix that. Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.