Hi there!
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:15:43 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 11:19 +0200, Luca Capello wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:24:33 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> > The Debian initramfs of my sid system is 10 MB, while the one from my
>> > RHEL 6.1 servers is 12 MB. So there
* Holger Levsen [111014 07:49]:
> On Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2011, brian m. carlson wrote:
> > If / and /boot are the same filesystem, then using a filesystem that the
> > bootloader supports is important. At least in the recent past, grub 2
> > didn't support booting off ext4; there was some pro
Hi,
On Donnerstag, 13. Oktober 2011, brian m. carlson wrote:
> If / and /boot are the same filesystem, then using a filesystem that the
> bootloader supports is important. At least in the recent past, grub 2
> didn't support booting off ext4; there was some problem when doing that.
> If /usr is a
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 08:22:09PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> Other than tradition, for what reason do you put /usr on a different
> filesystem?
If / and /boot are the same filesystem, then using a filesystem that the
bootloader supports is important. At least in the recent past, grub 2
didn't
Hi Marco,
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:20:33 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
> On Oct 13, Stephan Seitz wrote:
...
> > - Rescue DVDs may not support modern file systems because of older
> > kernels.
> Not a very compelling reason: if you use an unusual/recent file system,
> spend two minutes
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 04:20:33PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Oct 13, Stephan Seitz wrote:
- I think that the probability that defective hard drive sectors
will hit a small partition is less. So your „repair partition”
will probably boot at least in emergency mode with more tools than
an
On Oct 13, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> - I think that the probability that defective hard drive sectors
> will hit a small partition is less. So your „repair partition”
> will probably boot at least in emergency mode with more tools than
> any initramfs.
I can't see which tools help you if the dis
On Thu, 2011-10-13 at 11:19 +0200, Luca Capello wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:24:33 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > On Oct 12, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> >
> >> On the other hand, Debian has chosen against that and relies on klibc,
> >> ipconfig, etc. for early userspace and thus, t
Hi there!
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:24:33 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Oct 12, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
>
>> On the other hand, Debian has chosen against that and relies on klibc,
>> ipconfig, etc. for early userspace and thus, the initramfs. I suspect
>> the main motivations behind these decision
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 08:22:09PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
Other than tradition, for what reason do you put /usr on a different
filesystem?
- I think that the probability that defective hard drive sectors will hit
a small partition is less. So your „repair partition” will probably
boo
Stephan Seitz wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 09:24:33PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> I still do not believe that portability is an issue, and please
>> remember that this would not force people to use an initramfs unless
>> they want to keep /usr on a standalone file system.
>
> Most of my syste
On Oct 13, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Using the inittamfs on my 6 storage servers (each 48 HDD 2 TB intern and
> the same extern)requires "rootdelay=3000" and longer. Working without
> reduce the average boottime to 12 minutes.
Looks like you need to work out what is going wrong with the initra
Hello Stephan Seitz,
Am 2011-10-12 22:20:50, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> Most of my systems don’t use initramfs and have / and /usr on
> different file systems. I am no interested in changing this good
> tradition.
Here too...
Using the inittamfs on my 6 storage servers (each 48 HDD 2 TB in
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 09:24:33PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
The Debian initramfs of my sid system is 10 MB, while the one from my
My / (testing) is 193M, so I guess, I have much more „emergency” programs
available than you. The last time I was trapped within a initramfs, the
available progr
On Oct 12, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> On the other hand, Debian has chosen against that and relies on klibc,
> ipconfig, etc. for early userspace and thus, the initramfs. I suspect
> the main motivations behind these decisions were portability and size
> (please correct me and add references).
The
> Reinhard Tartler writes:
> On Mi, Okt 12, 2011 at 06:09:00 (CEST), Ivan Shmakov wrote:
[…]
> AFAIUI Harald (the fedora maintainer for their initramfs tool
> dracut), he dislikes having a separate set of tools in /usr and the
> initramfs, i.e., he strongly favors putting glibc, bash,
On Mi, Okt 12, 2011 at 06:09:00 (CEST), Ivan Shmakov wrote:
>> Marco d'Itri writes:
>
> […]
>
> > So let's look at the reasons against merging /usr in / listed in my
> > final summary. All of them do not apply to merging / in /usr, and
> > actually become arguments in favour of doing it:
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