Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-07 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Qui, 2005-11-03 às 12:45 -0800, Erast Benson escreveu: > Apparently you misunderstood me. > All I'm saying is that Debian community might want to embrace > GNU/Solaris non-glibc port or reject it. To embrace, some core > components, like dpkg, should be dual-licensed CDDL/GPL. I say let's rejec

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:14:11PM -0800, Erast Benson said > On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 12:22 -0600, David Moreno Garza wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 16:36 -0800, Alex Ross wrote: > > > > Do you plan to submit your port as an official port to Debian once > > > it > > > > stabilizes? > > > > > Yes

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 03 novembre 2005 à 12:57 -0800, Erast Benson a écrit : > I'm not talking about DFSG to embrace CDDL entirely. CDDL is good enough > for what it was invented - "system runtime". To make CDDL-based ports > possible with more/less pain and to avoid duplication of work, it should > be enough t

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Hubert Chan
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 12:57:17 -0800, Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I'm not talking about DFSG to embrace CDDL entirely. CDDL is good ... Please look up the meaning of acronyms if you intend on using them. I do not think it means what you thi

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Matthew Garrett
Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apparently you misunderstood me. > All I'm saying is that Debian community might want to embrace > GNU/Solaris non-glibc port or reject it. To embrace, some core > components, like dpkg, should be dual-licensed CDDL/GPL. Not every dpkg copyright holder is

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 15:26 -0500, Michael Poole wrote: > Erast Benson writes: > > > On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 12:22 -0600, David Moreno Garza wrote: > >> On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 16:36 -0800, Alex Ross wrote: > >> > > Do you plan to submit your port as an official port to Debian once > >> > it > >> > >

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 12:17 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > World is changed since then, and today we have Nexenta OS. This forces > > community to re-think/re-work all these CDDL vs. GPL issues. > > You seem to be saying that if a bunch of peopl

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Michael Poole
Erast Benson writes: > On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 12:22 -0600, David Moreno Garza wrote: >> On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 16:36 -0800, Alex Ross wrote: >> > > Do you plan to submit your port as an official port to Debian once >> > it >> > > stabilizes? >> >> > Yes. >> >> Wasn't this already discussed regar

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > World is changed since then, and today we have Nexenta OS. This forces > community to re-think/re-work all these CDDL vs. GPL issues. You seem to be saying that if a bunch of people are already violating the GPL, we are "forced" to do something other tha

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 12:22 -0600, David Moreno Garza wrote: > On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 16:36 -0800, Alex Ross wrote: > > > Do you plan to submit your port as an official port to Debian once > > it > > > stabilizes? > > > Yes. > > Wasn't this already discussed regarding CDDL being not compatible w

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 18:51 +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > On Thursday 03 November 2005 08.32, Erast Benson wrote: > > Matthew: > > > > [...] whether you want to be part of A Debian Release. > > > > Hard to say right now... Lets see how all this thing will progress. > > But, *yes* we are willin

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 16:36 -0800, Alex Ross wrote: > > Do you plan to submit your port as an official port to Debian once > it > > stabilizes? > Yes. Wasn't this already discussed regarding CDDL being not compatible with DFSGs? Otherwise, hit myself with a cluebat :) http://lists.debian.org/

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 03 November 2005 08.32, Erast Benson wrote: > Matthew: > > [...] whether you want to be part of A Debian Release. > > Hard to say right now... Lets see how all this thing will progress. > But, *yes* we are willing to cooperate. So I guess this summarizes the technical side of this dis

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 02 novembre 2005 à 21:04 -0800, Erast Benson a écrit : > FreeBSD kernel under BSD license and not GPL-compatible. > Native GNU libc do not make any difference since it is a part of "system > runtime" which includes: kernel, libc, compiler, etc (as per GPL). In > fact, it is even more co

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op wo, 02-11-2005 te 21:04 -0800, schreef Erast Benson: > On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 18:54 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Ubuntu is not an official Debian Port. > > > > > >> on another hand, GNU/Solaris uses different kernel and libc, which >

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op wo, 02-11-2005 te 18:31 -0800, schreef Erast Benson: > On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 01:14 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Alex Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Michael Banck wrote: > > >> If so, do you plan to use Debian's mailing lists and bug > > >> tracking system for development? > > > > >

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-02 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 09:27:04PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Native GNU libc do not make any difference since it is a part of >> "system runtime" which includes: kernel, libc, compiler, etc (as >> per GPL). > You use these quotation marks in t

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-02 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 15:50 +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 06:31:00PM -0800, Erast Benson wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 01:14 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > Alex Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Michael Banck wrote: > > > >> If so, do you plan to use Debian's

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 06:31:00PM -0800, Erast Benson wrote: > On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 01:14 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Alex Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Michael Banck wrote: > > >> If so, do you plan to use Debian's mailing lists and bug > > >> tracking system for development? > > >

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > FreeBSD kernel under BSD license and not GPL-compatible. You are incorrect. The BSG license most certainly is GPL-compatible. > Native GNU libc do not make any difference since it is a part of "system > runtime" which includes: kernel, libc, compiler,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-02 Thread Joshua Cummings
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 21:04 -0800, Erast Benson wrote: > On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 18:54 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Ubuntu is not an official Debian Port. > > > > > >> on another hand, GNU/Solaris uses different kernel and libc, which >

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-02 Thread Erast Benson
On Wed, 2005-11-02 at 18:54 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Ubuntu is not an official Debian Port. > > > >> on another hand, GNU/Solaris uses different kernel and libc, which > >> brings many non-Debian-related issues into play. > > > > There i

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ubuntu is not an official Debian Port. > >> on another hand, GNU/Solaris uses different kernel and libc, which >> brings many non-Debian-related issues into play. > > There is also hurd or freebsd kernel ports for debian, so those projects are > simili

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-02 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > on another hand, Ubuntu has its own tracking system, so GNU/Solaris is > not the first one. Even though Ubuntu is GNU/Linux system... Ubuntu is not an official Debian Port. > on another hand, GNU/Solaris uses different kernel and libc, which > brings ma

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If development is carried out within the Debian project then yes, it's > likely that the Debian community would work on GNU/Solaris. See the > kFreeBSD and hurd ports, for instance. But only with the licensing question sorted out first. -- To UNS

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 06:31:00PM -0800, Erast Benson wrote: > On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 01:14 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > It's unlikely that you'll be accepted as an official Debian port unless > > you're willing to use the Debian bug tracking system. It's not > > reasonable to expect Debian ma

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-02 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2005-11-03 at 01:14 +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Alex Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Michael Banck wrote: > >> If so, do you plan to use Debian's mailing lists and bug > >> tracking system for development? > > > > No. We have ours: svn, Trac, and mailing lists. > > It's unlikely t

Re: [Fwd: Re: Debian based GNU/Solaris: pilot program]

2005-11-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
Alex Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Banck wrote: >> If so, do you plan to use Debian's mailing lists and bug >> tracking system for development? > > No. We have ours: svn, Trac, and mailing lists. It's unlikely that you'll be accepted as an official Debian port unless you're willing to