Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 12:25:21AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Pe?a wrote: > > Well, at least it was different... ftp.debian.org is an even more horrible > > default, because that's burdering one single machine maxing out its FE card, > > where we have a network of >300 mirrors out there that

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-29 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:48:59PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > Well, at least it was different... ftp.debian.org is an even more horrible > default, because that's burdering one single machine maxing out its FE card, > where we have a network of >300 mirrors out there that are mostly happy > to sha

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 09:50:23AM -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > > debootstrap: > > uses ftp.debian.org as default mirror. > > debconf questions aside, I think ftp.debian.org is a much saner *default* > than ftp.jp.debian.org. I've always wondered where the later silly default > came fr

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-28 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > After 6 years or so of setting ftp.jp.debian.org as default for > > pbuilder, I'm finally determined that it shouldn't stay like this. So > > I'd like to have some default guessing to happen. Preferably I don't > > want to ask via debconf, since users should have already answered the > >

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 19:49 +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Sunday 27 May 2007 19:43, Joey Hess wrote: > > d-i uses the following hack to figure out where to download udebs from > > when building installation media: > > Note that this can result in multiple sources. If you want only one, this > hack

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-28 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 09:39:31AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, if I did use emdebian, I would be mirroring > > anything I need, and would be rather upset if emdebian tools would > > insist on clogging my network connection (which I might not

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-28 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 27 May 2007 22:42:41 +0300 Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On su, 2007-05-27 at 20:06 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > Unless your own mirror supports all Debian architectures, you will > > still need a primary for emdebian-tools. Do you test build your own > > Debian packages a

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-28 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 27 May 2007 20:53:18 +0100 Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 12:25:50AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > After 6 years or so of setting ftp.jp.debian.org as default for > > pbuilder, I'm finally determined that it shouldn't stay like this. > > So I'd like

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 12:25:50AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > After 6 years or so of setting ftp.jp.debian.org as default for > pbuilder, I'm finally determined that it shouldn't stay like this. So > I'd like to have some default guessing to happen. Preferably I don't > want to ask via debcon

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On su, 2007-05-27 at 20:06 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > Unless your own mirror supports all Debian architectures, you will > still need a primary for emdebian-tools. Do you test build your own > Debian packages against your own mirror? Is that wise? I don't use emdebian in any way, so any require

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 27 May 2007 21:01:19 +0300 Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On su, 2007-05-27 at 18:05 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > That would be very handy! The default could then be the > > closest/quickest primary mirror. It would be important (from my > > perspective) that this default i

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On su, 2007-05-27 at 18:05 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > That would be very handy! The default could then be the > closest/quickest primary mirror. It would be important (from my > perspective) that this default is required to be a primary mirror - > maybe offer the user only the list of primaries

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 27 May 2007 19:43, Joey Hess wrote: > d-i uses the following hack to figure out where to download udebs from > when building installation media: Note that this can result in multiple sources. If you want only one, this hack would need to be refined. Cheers, FJP pgpKGmesG3WSG.pgp Desc

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Joey Hess
Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Looking for prior art I found the following: d-i uses the following hack to figure out where to download udebs from when building installation media: grep '^deb[ \t]' $(SYSTEM_SOURCES_LIST) \ |grep -v '^deb[ \t]cdrom:' \ |gre

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 27 May 2007 19:22:26 +0300 Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > emdebian-tools: > > Using 'apt-cache policy' to obtain information > > -> told on IRC that it loses port number info. > > -> probably picks up security mirrors too, which > >

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > debootstrap: > > uses ftp.debian.org as default mirror. > > debconf questions aside, I think ftp.debian.org is a much saner *default* > than ftp.jp.debian.org. I've always wondered where the later silly default > came from. =) Good Trivia question. The reasons for using ftp.jp.deb

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ma, 2007-05-28 at 00:25 +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > piuparts: > Looks at first 'deb' line from /etc/apt/sources.list > -> Can't handle /etc/apt/sources.list.d > -> Assumes that the top entry is the best I didn't want to have piuparts use all sources.list en

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 27 May 2007 09:50:23 -0600 "Wesley J. Landaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 27 May 2007 09:25:50 Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > After 6 years or so of setting ftp.jp.debian.org as default for > > pbuilder, I'm finally determined that it shouldn't stay like this. So > > I'd like to h

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-27 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 27 May 2007 09:25:50 Junichi Uekawa wrote: > After 6 years or so of setting ftp.jp.debian.org as default for > pbuilder, I'm finally determined that it shouldn't stay like this. So > I'd like to have some default guessing to happen. Preferably I don't > want to ask via debconf, since us