Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-19 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 04:43:44PM +, Simon McVittie wrote: On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 at 17:51:35 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: For packages that are free, use debian versions whenever possible. For packages that are free but patched too much, use renamed packages. For non-free

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-19 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven., 2010-02-19 at 11:21 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: Maybe Nokia could be convinced to open up some/most of the Maemo5 apps once Maemo6/Meego is out; AIUI, not opening up the UI apps was an initial decision that has been at least partly rethought internally since. See

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-19 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
On ven., 2010-02-19 at 11:21 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: Maybe Nokia could be convinced to open up some/most of the Maemo5 apps once Maemo6/Meego is out; AIUI, not opening up the UI apps was an initial decision that has been at least partly rethought internally since. See

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-19 Thread Olivier Berger
Le mercredi 17 février 2010 à 16:35 +0100, Julian Andres Klode a écrit : Also the pkg-fso team: http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianFSO Freesmartphone.org is the other way, it has its own software. My idea is more about the things coming from Nokia and Intel, i.e. oFono, Connman, and the

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-18 Thread Andreas Marschke
Hi, Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Goals: - Provide an environment for handheld and netbook devices + example: the Nokia N900 - Provide a Debian-based implementation of MeeGo + Packaging the software from MeeGo

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-18 Thread Gergely Fazekas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Julian Andres Klode wrote: Hi, Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Goals: - Provide an environment for handheld and netbook devices + example: the Nokia N900 - Provide a

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-18 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Hi, Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Goals: - Provide an environment for handheld and netbook devices + example: the Nokia N900 Interestingly, is it possible to create a mix between current n900 packages and debian, such

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-18 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 at 17:51:35 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: For packages that are free, use debian versions whenever possible. For packages that are free but patched too much, use renamed packages. For non-free packages, use current Nokia's binaries wrapped into hand-made debs.

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? You want to start with em-debian. - Provide an environment for handheld and netbook devices + example: the Nokia N900 Well, I

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:13:13 +0100 Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? The difference between what you need for a phone and what

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:13:13 +0100 Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: You want to start with em-debian. www.emdebian.org/grip/ Also the pkg-fso team: http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianFSO A bunch of Moblin and

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 17/02/2010 15:53, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Hi, Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Carsten Munk (Stskeep, Mer main developer) has said he might use Debian Lenny as a base for Mer^2 on n8x0 (he won't continue developing Mer for N900+

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/2/17 Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org: Carsten Munk (Stskeep, Mer main developer) has said he might use Debian Lenny as a base for Mer^2 on n8x0 (he won't continue developing Mer for N900+ since Meego will achieve the same purpose). You might want to ask him about that. 18:55

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 15:18 + schrieb Neil Williams: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:13:13 +0100 Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Yes. Not that I can invest lots of time to such a project but I believe we really need to offer something at that level. Goals: - Provide an

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 17:20 +0100 schrieb Raphael Hertzog: Hi, On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Yes. Not that I can invest lots of time to such a project but I believe we

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 16:13 +0100 schrieb Bastian Blank: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? You want to start with em-debian. MeeGo is not really embedded,

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 07:13:41PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 16:13 +0100 schrieb Bastian Blank: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Hector Oron
Hi, 2010/2/17 Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org: Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 16:13 +0100 schrieb Bastian Blank: You want to start with em-debian. MeeGo is not really embedded, having a netbook UI and a handheld UI. The devices also have multiple GB of storage. FYI, Grip is not really

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 19:47 +0100 schrieb Hector Oron: Hi, 2010/2/17 Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org: Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 16:13 +0100 schrieb Bastian Blank: You want to start with em-debian. MeeGo is not really embedded, having a netbook UI and a handheld UI. The

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 05:29:15PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? I wonder whether we really need to start or whether we are able to continue what

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 17/02/10 05:34 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: I wonder whether we really need to start or whether we are able to continue what just exist: There is a Debian Eee PC project [1] which - as far as I know - is not reduced to this specific hardware despite the very specific name. Actually, our