Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Stephen Birch wrote: > On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 05:02 -0500, Christian Perrier wrote: > > Quoting David Weinehall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > > Indeed. The Nokia OSSO (Open Source Software Operations) that work on > > > this product consists of several DD's (myself being one), plus at least > > > o

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:47:50AM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:21:46AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > > Florian Weimer([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 09:32: > > > * Stephen Birch: > > > > > > > Wow Nokia just became my new favourite company. > > > > > > To put thi

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

I wrote: > You don't need any money and you don't need to sue Microsoft. If you have > proof of prior art for a software patent please contact one of the many > organizations fighting such patents, such as the Free Software Foundation > . Michelle Konzack writes: > Hmmm, shoul

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Am 2005-06-06 10:11:22, schrieb John Hasler: > You don't need any money and you don't need to sue Microsoft. If you have > proof of prior art for a software patent please contact one of the many > organizations fighting such patents, such as the Free Software Foundation > . S

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Michelle Konzack writes: > I know, and I have no money to sue Microsoft which has stolen a Software > which was 1986 under PD for educational use only... You don't need any money and you don't need to sue Microsoft. If you have proof of prior art for a software patent please contact one of the ma

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:01:37PM +0200, Xavier Roche wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 01:33:00PM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: > > That is the key: OSS cannot be killed, not while EU and USA's governments, > > local and nationwide, are promoting, using and even developing OSS > > themselves. > >

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:17:21AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > Michelle Konzack([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 15:52: > > I know, and I have no money to sue Microsoft which has stolen > > a Software which was 1986 under PD for educational use only... > > Just out of curiosity, what was that? >

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Am 2005-06-06 08:17:21, schrieb Stephen Birch: > Michelle Konzack([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 15:52: > > I know, and I have no money to sue Microsoft which has stolen > > a Software which was 1986 under PD for educational use only... > > Just out of curiosity, what was that? 1) A Scandisk rout

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Jesus Climent writes: > That is the key: OSS cannot be killed, not while EU and USA's governments, > local and nationwide, are promoting, using and even developing OSS themselves. > Would you shoot on your feet? The politicians really don't comprehend the problem (and neither do most of the CEOs

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Michelle Konzack([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 15:52: > I know, and I have no money to sue Microsoft which has stolen > a Software which was 1986 under PD for educational use only... Just out of curiosity, what was that? Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "un

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

David Weinehall([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 11:47: > > > > top company to bottom in my mind. Sigh ... I would have liked one of > > those tablet computer. > > So, I take it you don't buy any products from Apple, IBM, Sony, > etc either? Apple ... nope IBM ... nope Sony ... okay, so you got

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Am 2005-06-06 15:02:31, schrieb Xavier Roche: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:19:20PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > Many of those Patents a not related to OSS. > > Yes, true. But many other "non software" patents are actually > disguised software patents (such as implementing a trivial algorithm

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:19:20PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Many of those Patents a not related to OSS. Yes, true. But many other "non software" patents are actually disguised software patents (such as implementing a trivial algorithm on a chip - hey, these ARE software patents) > And s

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Am 2005-06-06 12:10:02, schrieb Xavier Roche: > 922 patents (including software patents, still 'illegal' in Europe) > were issued by Nokia, by the way: > > But IBM issued much more (at least 2620, according to ffii) software > patents. For some

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 01:33:00PM +0200, Jesus Climent wrote: > That is the key: OSS cannot be killed, not while EU and USA's governments, > local and nationwide, are promoting, using and even developing OSS themselves. I can't be killed, but it can be expensive. What will do governments, local a

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

* Jesus Climent: > That is the key: OSS cannot be killed, not while EU and USA's > governments, local and nationwide, are promoting, using and even > developing OSS themselves. Most countries use OSS only when it's supported by large companies that can be sued for billions. Smaller companies usu

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 12:10:02PM +0200, Xavier Roche wrote: > > Both IBM and Nokia said they won't sue open source developpers. For the > moment, at least. This is the real threat, IMHO: big companies using open > source for a while, and then.. killing it when they don't need it anymore. That i

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:47:50AM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > So, I take it you don't buy any products from Apple, IBM, Sony, > etc either? Same for Alcatel, Ericsson and Siemens, who actively support software patents in Europe :( They all sent threat/blackmail letters to European government

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:21:46AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > Florian Weimer([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 09:32: > > * Stephen Birch: > > > > > Wow Nokia just became my new favourite company. > > > > To put things into perspective, Nokia is one of the companies lobbying > > for unlimited

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Florian Weimer([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 09:32: > * Stephen Birch: > > > Wow Nokia just became my new favourite company. > > To put things into perspective, Nokia is one of the companies lobbying > for unlimited software patents in Europe. Oops. I don't like to appear fickle but I guess

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

* Stephen Birch: > Wow Nokia just became my new favourite company. To put things into perspective, Nokia is one of the companies lobbying for unlimited software patents in Europe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 05:02 -0500, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting David Weinehall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Indeed. The Nokia OSSO (Open Source Software Operations) that work on > > this product consists of several DD's (myself being one), plus at least > > one person in the NM-queue. Some

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Quoting David Weinehall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Indeed. The Nokia OSSO (Open Source Software Operations) that work on > this product consists of several DD's (myself being one), plus at least > one person in the NM-queue. Some of our subcontractors are also DD's. This should be IMHO publicized

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 11:23:14AM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > The open source software component of the Nokia 770 can be downloaded from > Maemo.org as a complete filesystem, or managed as a collection of Debian > source and binary packages. Yep, and many of the packages match the Debia

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 10:40:41AM +0200, Olivier Bornet wrote: > Hello, > > > From: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS3716070830.html > > > > ... > > The open source software component of the Nokia 770 can be downloaded from > > Maemo.org as a complete filesystem, or managed as a collection of Debi

Re: New Nokia device is Debian-based?

Hello, > From: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS3716070830.html > > ... > The open source software component of the Nokia 770 can be downloaded from > Maemo.org as a complete filesystem, or managed as a collection of Debian > source and binary packages. > ... Right. I have received some informatio