Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-11 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On 11/11/2014 02:10 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Santiago Vila writes ("Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system > coupling"): >> The voting process is already complex enough. If it is going to be like this: >> >> GR Proposal: Option A. >> Amendme

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Santiago Vila writes ("Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling"): > On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:12:46PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I have a half-written series to make it cope with lettered, rather > > than numbered, options. Would it be worth my

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-10 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:12:46PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Neil McGovern writes ("Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system > coupling"): > > Indeed, unfortunately so. Given the rather rushed nature though, it > > would be nice to try and work out a way o

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-10 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:12:46PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Neil McGovern writes ("Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system > coupling"): > > Indeed, unfortunately so. Given the rather rushed nature though, it > > would be nice to try and work out a way o

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-10 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:12:46PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > I have a half-written series to make it cope with lettered, rather > than numbered, options. Would it be worth my while finishing that off > (in my CFT) ? The voting process is already complex enough. If it is going to be like this:

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Neil McGovern writes ("Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling"): > Indeed, unfortunately so. Given the rather rushed nature though, it > would be nice to try and work out a way of avoiding having to do this > manual action in future. I'm curre

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-10 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 04:12:20PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 04:10:13PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:53:43PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > > > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > 57dd4

Re: "done with consensus decisionmaking", "war", "rearguard battles" [was: Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling]

2014-11-09 Thread Andreas Barth
* Don Armstrong (d...@debian.org) [141109 22:22]: > On Sun, 09 Nov 2014, Josh Triplett wrote: > > (After repetition of the exact wording of the "We aren't convinced" > > wording that ended up passing, and people pointing out that it *will* be > > interpreted as TC opposition to the switch, which su

Re: "done with consensus decisionmaking", "war", "rearguard battles" [was: Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling]

2014-11-09 Thread Josh Triplett
[Please CC me on replies.] Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 09 Nov 2014, Josh Triplett wrote: > > (After repetition of the exact wording of the "We aren't convinced" > > wording that ended up passing, and people pointing out that it *will* be > > interpreted as TC opposition to the switch, which sur

Re: "done with consensus decisionmaking", "war", "rearguard battles" [was: Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling]

2014-11-09 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014, Josh Triplett wrote: > (After repetition of the exact wording of the "We aren't convinced" > wording that ended up passing, and people pointing out that it *will* be > interpreted as TC opposition to the switch, which sure enough it did...) The "we are currently skeptical" wor

Re: "done with consensus decisionmaking", "war", "rearguard battles" [was: Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling]

2014-11-09 Thread Josh Triplett
[CCed to a wider audience, but reply-to and mail-followup-to set to avoid a prolonged cross-list thread.] Sune Vuorela wrote: > I have a hard time assuming good faith from people who are at war. > > /Sune > > [17:35:34] > http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-ctte/2014/debian-ctte.2014-10-30-17.00.lo

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-06 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 04:10:13PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:53:43PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > 57dd4d7c-3e92-428f-8ab7-10de5172589e > > [ 5 ] Choice 1: Packages may not (in gene

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-06 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:53:43PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 57dd4d7c-3e92-428f-8ab7-10de5172589e > [ 5 ] Choice 1: Packages may not (in general) require a specific init system > [ 2 ] Choice 2: Support for other init

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread Philip Hands
> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 57dd4d7c-3e92-428f-8ab7-10de5172589e > [ 5 ] Choice 1: Packages may not (in general) require a specific init system > [ 3 ] Choice 2: Support for other init systems is recommended, but not > mandatory > [ 2 ] Choice 3:

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread NOKUBI Takatsugu
> - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 57dd4d7c-3e92-428f-8ab7-10de5172589e > [ 2 ] Choice 1: Packages may not (in general) require a specific init system > [ 3 ] Choice 2: Support for other init systems is recommended, but not > mandatory > [ 4 ] Choice 3: