Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy

2004-10-09 Thread Sven Mueller
Thomas Bushnell BSG [u] wrote on 09/10/2004 19:12: Sven Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Doing a backport of some upstream change is usually a pretty difficult task (except for smaller security fixes). It's pretty easy to claim "no new command line feature added", but it is pretty difficult to c

Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy

2004-10-11 Thread Frank Küster
Sven Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > == > > Draft for a volatile.debian.org packaging and update policy. > [...] > Policy for v.d.o > [...] > - A new version uploaded to v.d.o should restrict itself to new code >which is

Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy

2004-10-11 Thread Sven Mueller
Frank Küster [u] wrote on 10/10/2004 19:17: >> Sven Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > == Draft for a volatile.debian.org packaging and update policy. > >> [...] > Policy for v.d.o > >> [...] > - A new versio

Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy

2004-10-11 Thread John Hasler
Sven Mueller writes: > Say a new open source network security scanner enters the world, and it > works well when compiled against Debian stable, we might want to add it > to v.d.o even though it wasn't available when the last stable > distribution was released. Or a new version of clamav is releas

Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy

2004-10-12 Thread paddy
John, On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 06:48:00PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Sven Mueller writes: > > Say a new open source network security scanner enters the world, and it > > works well when compiled against Debian stable, we might want to add it > > to v.d.o even though it wasn't available when the la

Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy

2004-10-12 Thread John Hasler
Sven Mueller writes: > Say a new open source network security scanner enters the world... ^^^ I wrote: > Those things belong in the non-existent backports.debian.org, not in > volatile.debian.org. paddy writes: > define 'breaks compatibilty'. > As long as it _is_ still the same package...

Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy

2004-10-12 Thread paddy
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 07:57:06AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Sven Mueller writes: > > Say a new open source network security scanner enters the world... > ^^^ Yes, I neglected this half of the scenario, but see below. > I wrote: > > Those things belong in the non-existent backports.debi

Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy

2004-10-13 Thread Thaddeus H. Black
John Hasler mentions, > ... the non-existent backports.debian.org ... An existent backports.debian.org would seem a worthy aspiration. Were plans thereto afoot, I would encourage. (It has been surmised once or twice in this thread that few people here actually use stable. This may be so, but ju

Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy

2004-10-13 Thread John Hasler
Thaddeus H. Black writes: > An existent backports.debian.org would seem a worthy aspiration. Were > plans thereto afoot, I would encourage. I agree, but I try to avoid writing anything that could be construed as "somebody ought to do X" on debian lists. > It has been surmised once or twice in th

Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy

2004-10-17 Thread Martin Schulze
John Hasler wrote: > > This also might include working on a sort of security team for v.d.o (I > > think both jobs should actually be combined in v.d.o). > > v.d.o. should be supported by the Debian security team. I don't think it > is worth doing if it can't be. One way to help make sure Debian

Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy

2004-10-17 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > v.d.o. should be supported by the Debian security team. I don't think it > is worth doing if it can't be. One way to help make sure Debian security > can support it is to keep it as small and simple as possible. Martin Schulze writes: > Backports.org isn't supported by the security te

Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy

2004-10-30 Thread Jesus Climent
On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 06:48:00PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Sven Mueller writes: > > Say a new open source network security scanner enters the world, and it > > works well when compiled against Debian stable, we might want to add it > > to v.d.o even though it wasn't available when the last stab

Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy (was: Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1) )

2004-10-09 Thread Thaddeus H. Black
The draft looks good, Sven. Please also include target # 5 as follows. > Draft for a volatile.debian.org packaging and update policy. > > Target: > > volatile.debian.org (or short: v.d.o) is intended to be a repository for > packages which degrade over time with respect to their usefulness. Th

Re: RFD: Draft for a volatile.d.o policy (was: Re: Updating scanners and filters in Debian stable (3.1) )

2004-10-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Sven Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Doing a backport of some upstream change is usually a pretty difficult > task (except for smaller security fixes). It's pretty easy to claim > "no new command line feature added", but it is pretty difficult to > claim "no new bugs added" or "all necessary