Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, No, niether dpkg-ftp nor dpkg-mountable modify the available file directly. What, then, causes the problems upgrading to frozen? Methinks (despite the tone of your remarks) that the problem then does in fact lie in dpkg; as it seems to accept a packages file that it consequently ca

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-28 Thread Guy Maor
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do dpkg-ftp or dpkg-mountable modify /var/lib/dpkg/available > directly ? No, it doesn't. It keeps its own copies of the Packages files in /var/lib/dpkg/methods/ftp and correctly merges them in with --merge-avail. > If you tried to dpkg --merge-availabl

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-28 Thread Andy Mortimer
On May 28, Ian Jackson wrote > > Do dpkg-ftp or dpkg-mountable modify /var/lib/dpkg/available > directly ? I doubt it. Certainly dpkg-mountable never modifies any system files directly, since (as I'm sure you're aware) this is a rather silly thing to do, and IIRC from reading the dpkg-ftp source

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-28 Thread Ian Jackson
Do dpkg-ftp or dpkg-mountable modify /var/lib/dpkg/available directly ? If so then that is why this problem (older dpkg versions not understanding epochs) has such serious consequences. If you tried to dpkg --merge-available or dpkg --update-available with a Packages file that the currently-insta

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-27 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raul Miller) wrote on 27.05.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > These packages should conflict with the versions of dpkg which > have the problem. [Or maybe a predepends on a good version of > dpkg?] That won't help. Once you [U]pdate, the old dpkg will refuse to work. You don't e

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-27 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Koenig) wrote on 27.05.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Scott K. Ellis wrote: > > >And if you don't read the documentation, especially the release > >instructions, you get what you deserve. > > What part of the documentation are you referring to? I found nothing > referring

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-27 Thread Raul Miller
On May 27, Thomas Koenig wrote > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > People will probably have told you this, but the Packages file > > was not corrupted, those 1:x.x.xx are critical (these are epochs), > > and the problem actually is that the version of dpkg being used is > > too old to understand

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-27 Thread Thomas Koenig
Scott K. Ellis wrote: >And if you don't read the documentation, especially the release >instructions, you get what you deserve. What part of the documentation are you referring to? I found nothing referring to that issue in the READMEs or in the doc subdirectory. Where else is a user supposed to

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-27 Thread Scott K. Ellis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 27 May 1997, Thomas Koenig wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > People will probably have told you this, but the Packages file > > was not corrupted, those 1:x.x.xx are critical (these are epochs), > > and the problem actually is that the version

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-27 Thread Thomas Koenig
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > People will probably have told you this, but the Packages file > was not corrupted, those 1:x.x.xx are critical (these are epochs), > and the problem actually is that the version of dpkg being used is > too old to understand epochs. OUCH. Is there any reason why

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-26 Thread Guy Maor
Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Perhaps dselect just needs to always update dpkg before calling > anything else? (dftp does this) In this case it wouldn't help as the Update breaks it. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-26 Thread Brian White
> Why is this information (about the need to upgrade dpkg > *first*) not screaming out all over the web pages and the > installation README's? (pardon me if the information is in the > README's) Perhaps dselect just needs to always update dpkg before calling anything else? (dftp does t

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, People will probably have told you this, but the Packages file was not corrupted, those 1:x.x.xx are critical (these are epochs), and the problem actually is that the version of dpkg being used is too old to understand epochs. Why is this information (about the need to upg

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-26 Thread Jim Pick
Galen Hazelwood wrote: > This is a legitimate version format. You failed to upgrade dpkg > before upgrading everything else. Fellow Debian developers, we > _really_ need to put up warnings that this needs to be done! Otherwise > innocent people will corrupt their systems by upgrading. Maybe w

Re: Upgrading from 1.1 to frozen

1997-05-26 Thread Galen Hazelwood
Thomas Koenig wrote: > > I just spent an interesting afternoon trying to upgrade a 1.1 system > to 1.3. > > First, /var/lib/dpkg/available was corrupted because of some > incorrect values in the Version - field (somehow they had gotten to > the format of 1:1-2 or similar; bug report submitted).