Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-20 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sat, May 17, 2003 at 07:05:10PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Denis Barbier wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There is currently no consensus whether translated man pages should > > be shipped along with original man pages or within manpages-xx packages. > > The general rule is that manpages-$lang conta

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-19 Thread Martin Quinson
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 10:02:18PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote: > > > On Friday 16 May 2003 11:45 am, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > > On Fri, 16 May 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote: > > > > > more than once i had to install small dns servers on boxes

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-17 Thread Martin Schulze
Denis Barbier wrote: > Hi, > > There is currently no consensus whether translated man pages should > be shipped along with original man pages or within manpages-xx packages. The general rule is that manpages-$lang contains translated manual pages from the manpages (upstream name: man-pages) packa

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-16 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Fri, 16 May 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote: > On Friday 16 May 2003 11:45 am, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > On Fri, 16 May 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote: > > > > more than once i had to install small dns servers on boxes with less > > > > than 100Mb flash and stuff like that... so basically also the m

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-16 Thread Keegan Quinn
On Friday 16 May 2003 12:13 pm, Keegan Quinn wrote: > On Friday 16 May 2003 11:45 am, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > On Fri, 16 May 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote: > > > > more than once i had to install small dns servers on boxes with less > > > > than 100Mb flash and stuff like that... so basically

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-16 Thread Keegan Quinn
On Friday 16 May 2003 11:45 am, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote: > > > more than once i had to install small dns servers on boxes with less > > > than 100Mb flash and stuff like that... so basically also the minimal > > > installation has to be tight.. then r

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-16 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Fri, 16 May 2003, Keegan Quinn wrote: > > more than once i had to install small dns servers on boxes with less than > > 100Mb flash and stuff like that... so basically also the minimal > > installation has to be tight.. then rm doc and man and after install the > > minimum sets of pkgs to provi

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-16 Thread Keegan Quinn
On Friday 16 May 2003 01:07 am, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > > > I agree with Wouter. For me would be an issue having the base system > > > bigger than it is now. Specially preparing very small "black box" where > > > i need to save as much space as i c

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-16 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Fri, 16 May 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > > I agree with Wouter. For me would be an issue having the base system > > bigger than it is now. Specially preparing very small "black box" where i > > need to save as much space as i can even during the installation phase. > > Can't you basically just '

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-16 Thread Martin Quinson
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:24:14AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > Hi, > > There is currently no consensus whether translated man pages should > be shipped along with original man pages or within manpages-xx packages. > Unfortunately this leads to conflicts when a translation is first > shipped by t

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, May 16, 2003 at 07:09:00AM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 2003, Wouter Verhelst wrote: [restored attribution you snipped ...] > > On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 05:48:15PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > > > When grabbing old mails, I found an answer from a developer who told

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-16 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Thu, 15 May 2003, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > When grabbing old mails, I found an answer from a developer who told me > > that his package is part of base and thus he wants to keep it small. > > Is this indeed an important issue? > > I'd say yes; but those packages will not usually be uninstalle

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 05:48:15PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:09:08AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:24:14AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > > > There is currently no consensus whether translated man pages should > > > be shipped along with ori

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-15 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:09:08AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:24:14AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > > There is currently no consensus whether translated man pages should > > be shipped along with original man pages or within manpages-xx packages. > > Unfortunately this

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:09:08AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > I think it is proper to include translated man pages with original man > pages, and to use apt-localepurge (now) or dpkg exclusions (when they're > implemented) if people are worried about space. My gut feeling is that I believe this

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:24:14AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > There is currently no consensus whether translated man pages should > be shipped along with original man pages or within manpages-xx packages. > Unfortunately this leads to conflicts when a translation is first > shipped by the latter

Re: Where are translated man pages packaged?

2003-05-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 11:24:14AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > Hi, > > There is currently no consensus whether translated man pages should > be shipped along with original man pages or within manpages-xx packages. > Unfortunately this leads to conflicts when a translation is first > shipped by t