Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-10-06 Thread Russell Coker
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 22:45, Julien Cristau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 14:12:13 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le dimanche 14 septembre 2008 à 21:32 +1000, Russell Coker a écrit : > > > For a typical desktop system (such as my EeePC) a default installation > >

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-10-06 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 06:38:12AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Tuesday 16 September 2008 04:14, Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This > > cost me over one hour as bind lacks proper error messages in this code > > path. > > Has that bug in bind (inadequate error reporting) been fix

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-10-06 Thread Russell Coker
Sorry for the delay in replying, you forgot to CC me... On Tuesday 16 September 2008 22:12, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le dimanche 14 septembre 2008 à 21:32 +1000, Russell Coker a écrit : > > For a typical desktop system (such as my EeePC) a default installation of > > SE Linux

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-10-06 Thread Russell Coker
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 04:14, Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This > cost me over one hour as bind lacks proper error messages in this code > path. Has that bug in bind (inadequate error reporting) been fixed? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Blog http

Re: selinux documentation [was: Should selinux be standard?]

2008-09-17 Thread Raphael Geissert
Vincent Danjean wrote: ... > But if selinux is installed by default on all system, then I really > thing > that a basic documentation for Debian administrators (I mean people > managing machines with the Debian distribution on it, not admin of > official Debian machines) MUST be provided. +1

selinux documentation [was: Should selinux be standard?]

2008-09-17 Thread Vincent Danjean
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I think we are have a low enough avc denial rates that > unconfined/permissive already provides value. We are pretty close to > achieving unconfined/enforcing fo Lenny, and with help from people I > think we can be there. strict/permissive and strinct/enforcing

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-17 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Manoj Srivastava said: > On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Stephen Gran wrote: > > This is a sid install of the default policy in non-enforcing mode. I > > can't guarantee that every one of those complaints would have > > generated errors that matter, but it doesn't look like we're

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote: > There should and will, but only if it used. > I haven't had neither time nor interest to read the docs to correctly setup > SELinux. So, the several packages which are installed by default, because > of priority: standard, are completely useless.

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Raphael Geissert
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Mon, Sep 15 2008, Raphael Geissert wrote: > >> Bastian Blank wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 06:12:03PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 15 septembre 2008 à 10:12 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > > Agreed. Either SELinux is suitable with our

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Stephen Gran wrote: > This is a sid install of the default policy in non-enforcing mode. I > can't guarantee that every one of those complaints would have > generated errors that matter, but it doesn't look like we're tuned for > a normal install just yet. Well, seems

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 16 septembre 2008 à 13:05 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > allow avahi_t httpd_t:dbus send_msg; > allow hald_t pcscd_t:dbus send_msg; > allow httpd_t avahi_t:dbus send_msg; > allow httpd_t system_dbusd_t:dbus send_msg; > allow insmod_t lib_t:file execute_no_trans; > allow mdadm_t device

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Josselin Mouette said: > Le dimanche 14 septembre 2008 à 21:32 +1000, Russell Coker a écrit : > > For a typical desktop system (such as my EeePC) a default installation of > > SE > > Linux in Lenny works for most things. > > What do you mean by "most things"? What

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 13:05 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Julien Cristau wrote: > > > I just tried booting with selinux=1 on my laptop. I see errors from mpd > > related to /usr/lib/libtheora.so.0.3.3, from xdm starting my X session, > > from sudo reading /etc/resolv.conf,

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Julien Cristau wrote: > I just tried booting with selinux=1 on my laptop. I see errors from mpd > related to /usr/lib/libtheora.so.0.3.3, from xdm starting my X session, > from sudo reading /etc/resolv.conf, from dmesg reading the system log, > from ssh-add connecting to the

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Martin Orr
On 16/09/08 13:44, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tuesday 16 September 2008 13:40, Reinhard Tartler wrote: >> so an `ls -Z` does not work for you? > > It doesnt do anything useful here. > > I'm all for enabling selinux per default, but I think it should be done, when > it works and such a change shou

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Felipe Sateler
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Firstly, what policy are you using? Has you machine been updated > to actually compile/load the policy? (Like a number of packages, > SELinux does need some configuration). I guess the argument could be made that a package that can't autoconfigure itself for some basic f

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 16 2008, Julien Cristau wrote: > I just tried booting with selinux=1 on my laptop. I see errors from mpd > related to /usr/lib/libtheora.so.0.3.3, from xdm starting my X session, > from sudo reading /etc/resolv.conf, from dmesg reading the system log, > from ssh-add connecting to the

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-15 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Sun, September 14, 2008 12:40, Frans Pop wrote: > For those reasons I support the suggestion to change the priority of > SeLinux back to optional. > We can always discuss returning it to priority standard if/when SeLinux is > really ready to be not only installed by default, but also activated

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Sunday 14 September 2008 20:40, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although I agree with your basic question, I do wonder how it can be a > regression from Etch as selinux was also "priority standard" for Etch. > It was my impression that selinux installation had become faster recently > aft

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Sunday 14 September 2008 19:08, Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to ask whether selinux should really be installed by default. > On the Linksys NSLU2, a very popular device with only 32 MB of RAM, > installing selinux-policy-default takes at least half an hour (with > heavy

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-14 Thread Frans Pop
Martin Michlmayr wrote: > I'd like to ask whether selinux should really be installed by default. > On the Linksys NSLU2, a very popular device with only 32 MB of RAM, > installing selinux-policy-default takes at least half an hour (with > heavy swapping) or possibly even more.  This is a major regr

Re: Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-14 Thread David Goodenough
On Sunday 14 September 2008, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > I'd like to ask whether selinux should really be installed by default. > On the Linksys NSLU2, a very popular device with only 32 MB of RAM, > installing selinux-policy-default takes at least half an hour (with > heavy swapping) or possibly eve

Should selinux be standard?

2008-09-14 Thread Martin Michlmayr
I'd like to ask whether selinux should really be installed by default. On the Linksys NSLU2, a very popular device with only 32 MB of RAM, installing selinux-policy-default takes at least half an hour (with heavy swapping) or possibly even more. This is a major regression from the installer experi