Re: Source-Depends? Autoreconf?

2009-05-03 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 2 May 2009 13:24:07 +0100, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: I personally dislike the entire concept of Debian-native source packages. I would like it if all software in Debian had a split .orig/.diff. Even for real native sources, it makes things like backporting, reuse by others,

Re: Source-Depends? Autoreconf?

2009-05-03 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org [090502 18:25]: On Sat, 02 May 2009, Bernhard R. Link wrote: First of all, you do not discuss the most common type of packages: do not change the build-system, but just use it. This means autotools are never called, neighter when preparing the

Re: Source-Depends? Autoreconf?

2009-05-03 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org [090503 01:24]: I wold like to say that I do not really see the Degbian source package as a primary mode of development communication between Debian and the downstreams, as it is strictly a snapshot, and loses too much history. I think that

Re: Source-Depends? Autoreconf?

2009-05-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, May 03 2009, Bernhard R. Link wrote: There is one _very_ important reason why it is the best practice, too: since the build process is complete, and tested at every upload on every arch, it is far less likely to break on the hands of the security team, or on the hands of a porter of

Re: Source-Depends? Autoreconf?

2009-05-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, May 03 2009, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org [090503 01:24]: I wold like to say that I do not really see the Degbian source package as a primary mode of development communication between Debian and the downstreams, as it is strictly a

Source-Depends? Autoreconf?

2009-05-02 Thread Marius Vollmer
Hi, here is some ghost spooking around in my head, and maybe you can help me put it to rest. The GNU build system makes a distinction between maintainers of a source package and the people who eventually install it. Essentially, GNU is producing a source distribution that is aiming for very

Re: Source-Depends? Autoreconf?

2009-05-02 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 02:50:26PM +0300, Marius Vollmer wrote: Making a Debian source package always felt cumbersome: dpkg-source just tars up everything in front of it (I exaggerate, of course), and at least I am not used to having to clean my source tree before making a distribution tarball

Re: Source-Depends? Autoreconf?

2009-05-02 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Marius Vollmer marius.voll...@gmail.com [090502 13:50]: Still, I feel that this area of what should and shouldn't be in a source package is a bit under-addressed in Debian. (That is very likely only my own ignorance. I learned the little I know about packaging in Maemo; apologies might be

Re: Source-Depends? Autoreconf?

2009-05-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 02 May 2009, Bernhard R. Link wrote: First of all, you do not discuss the most common type of packages: do not change the build-system, but just use it. This means autotools are never called, neighter when preparing the package, nor when building the package. Yeah, it is really

Re: Source-Depends? Autoreconf?

2009-05-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I wold like to say that I do not really see the Degbian source package as a primary mode of development communication between Debian and the downstreams, as it is strictly a snapshot, and loses too much history. I think that people deriving code based on lines of development I