Re: Time to package simpleinit?

2003-04-29 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 18:23:34 +, Theodore Ts'o wrote: Ignoring a dependency is probably bettter than a deadlock which makes the system unusable, to be sure There's a third option. Make need exit with nonzero status if it's called recursively. Then the script just says set -e need foo

Re: Time to package simpleinit?

2003-04-28 Thread Martin Schulze
Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, obviously debian sid is from now on capable of supporting several init script schemes. Now I wonder if it is now possible to package R. Goochs simpleinit [1]. But I have some questions: Just for your information, a Debian user can choose between two concurrent

Re: Time to package simpleinit?

2003-04-28 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, I don't know if I got it wrong, but AFAIK runlevels work this way in Gooch's simpleinit: A runlevel is just any script whose name makes it being called by /sbin/init on a certain runlevel, like /etc/init.d/runlevel.3 There is nothing special about this script, it could do anything

Re: Time to package simpleinit?

2003-04-28 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 03:43:25PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: I am really not trying to replace the sysvinit scheme as a default one, and I don't think anybody else is. But having the option to use a different one is a goal worth going for. You might be interested in the runit and

Re: Time to package simpleinit?

2003-04-28 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 03:43:25PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: A runlevel is just any script whose name makes it being called by /sbin/init on a certain runlevel, like /etc/init.d/runlevel.3 There is nothing special about this script, it could do anything you want. Usually I think

Re: Time to package simpleinit?

2003-04-27 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Henrique, It is good to see that there is actually work done on it. Obviously you are more into the topic (and you are a debian developer), so It's up to me to offer you help with that, not the other way around :-) After reading through your paper (nice work), it looks to me as if the the

Re: Time to package simpleinit?

2003-04-27 Thread Theodore Ts'o
One big problem about Richard Gooch's simpleinit is that it is functionally very different from the standard systme V init scripts. Specifically, he always assumes that runlevel n+1 is always a superset of runlevel n, and that in order to get to runlevel n+1, you must first start up all of the

Time to package simpleinit?

2003-04-26 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, obviously debian sid is from now on capable of supporting several init script schemes. Now I wonder if it is now possible to package R. Goochs simpleinit [1]. But I have some questions: * Would that require replacing sysv-rc or sysvinit+sysv-rc? I think R.Goochs /sbin/init is capable of

Re: Time to package simpleinit?

2003-04-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 26 Apr 2003, Joachim Breitner wrote: * The /etc/init.d/ scripts would need to add need otherscript (and sometimes provide something). As I think it is a very bad idea to edit these scripts in our post-install (and try to reedit them in pre-remove)) one would have to file bugs agains

Re: Time to package simpleinit?

2003-04-26 Thread Matthew Palmer
On 26 Apr 2003, Joachim Breitner wrote: * The /etc/init.d/ scripts would need to add need otherscript (and sometimes provide something). As I think it is a very bad idea to edit these scripts in our post-install (and try to reedit them in pre-remove)) one would have to file bugs agains

Re: Time to package simpleinit?

2003-04-26 Thread David B Harris
On Sat Apr 26, 07:36pm +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: * The /etc/init.d/ scripts would need to add need otherscript (and sometimes provide something). As I think it is a very bad idea to edit these scripts in our post-install (and try to reedit them in pre-remove)) one would have to file bugs