On 04/25/2013 09:40 AM, Andreas Tille wrote:
> There are actually users who do not "see" the system but just the
> topping.
Yes, but I don't think we should encourage any users in this skewed view
of the system.
> I would never try to blame the user about this.
Nor would I. However, I would not
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 02:40:38PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> understandable to him: What is an operating system. (Hey, also Windows
> is no operating system - it is just a kick-starter for Windows, Excel, a
> browser and a mail client, right?)
s/for Windows, Excel/for Word, Excel/
Kind rega
or java). Its just that Debian has such strong policies that we
> are unable to consume said packaging, because the upstream packaging
> is less expressive. So, we have to lag while we QA all of our
> specialness.
There's so much more to packaging and *maintaining* a debian package
than wr
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:00:11PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Andreas Tille (2013-04-25 09:20:59)
> > I honestly wonder if there is some more general definition for the
> > term "app store" besides what according to[1] certain companies have
> > made out of it. Following the l
On 25-04-13 10:50, Clint Byrum wrote:
> On 2013-04-24 12:43, Guillem Jover wrote:
> All of the things you mention are huge accomplishments, but the scope is
> what I am suggesting has gotten out of hand. Do we really need "a high
> level view" and "QA of the entire system" for MongoDB?
We don't ne
Quoting Andreas Tille (2013-04-25 09:20:59)
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:43:48PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > ...
> > A distribution (any, most) is the gel that binds and gives an unified
> > and coherent shape to the software ecosystem.
>
> +1 (to everything even the cutted part)
>
> > An app
Le Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 01:50:58AM -0700, Clint Byrum a écrit :
>
> My suggestion is not to stop packaging, but to shift focus
> from "make an awesome package" to "make an awesome upstream" that
> results in an automatically generated awesome package. Debhelper and
> many of the other tools defini
On 2013-04-24 12:43, Guillem Jover wrote:
Hi!
On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 11:05:29 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
[...]. IMO this is why upstream packaging should be
embraced and enhanced rather than focusing on dpkg.
I'm not sure if you refer to the tool here, or to the packaging work,
doesn
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 09:43:48PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> ...
> A distribution (any, most) is the gel that binds and gives an unified
> and coherent shape to the software ecosystem.
+1 (to everything even the cutted part)
> An app store is just like
> a scrapyard, you might find magnificen
+1 to everything Guillem said. I particularly want to emphasize this
part:
Guillem Jover writes:
> On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 11:05:29 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
>> Where Debian's efforts should be focused is on things like license
>> verification and helping bug reports and fixes get to upstream.
>
Hi!
On Sat, 2013-04-20 at 11:05:29 -0700, Clint Byrum wrote:
> [...]. IMO this is why upstream packaging should be
> embraced and enhanced rather than focusing on dpkg.
I'm not sure if you refer to the tool here, or to the packaging work,
doesn't change much anyway.
> I
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