Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 04:32:22PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Why not build against testing by default, and have something auto-build > against unstable and report to the maintainers of the package that won't > build and the libary it won't build against whenever there is an error? Many problems,

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-23 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 05:25:28PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:13:42PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > >I'm not saying this is the only way that can happen; VNC could just > >have been built first and never rebuilt against the new libc6. That > >happens a lot. But t

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:13:42PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: I'm not saying this is the only way that can happen; VNC could just have been built first and never rebuilt against the new libc6. That happens a lot. But this way you can upload packages which are already unbuildable. That's bad,

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-23 Thread Herbert Xu
Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not saying this is the only way that can happen; VNC could just > have been built first and never rebuilt against the new libc6. That > happens a lot. But this way you can upload packages which are already > unbuildable. > > That's bad, mmkay

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-23 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 02:00:08AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Steve Greenland said: > >On 20-Nov-02, 17:43 (CST), Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 04:34:20PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > >> > > >> > And then when libc6 2.3.x dropped into testing, and bro

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 08:36:43AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 02:00:08AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > Clearly we need to test the libc6 in unstable to see if it breaks forward > > compatibility. Building packages in unstable against the "old" libc6 > > (while > >

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-23 Thread John Goerzen
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 02:00:08AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Clearly we need to test the libc6 in unstable to see if it breaks forward > compatibility. Building packages in unstable against the "old" libc6 (while > running them aganist the new one!) does just that. If we build everything

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-23 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Steve Greenland said: >On 20-Nov-02, 17:43 (CST), Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 04:34:20PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: >> > >> > And then when libc6 2.3.x dropped into testing, and broke xvncviewer, it >> > would be broken in testing as well as unstable. Yes,

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-22 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:40:39PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Nice, (btw, this is documented in man apt_preferences) but how do you know > there is a new version available in experemental from apt-cache? apt-cache policy -- - mdz

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-22 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:29:48AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: Nothing is installed from experimental because of dependencies.. you have to be explicit about each and every package. Either it automatically installs upgraded packages, potentially clobbering something you don't want clobbered, or i

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-21 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:40:39PM -0800, Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Nice, (btw, this is documented in man apt_preferences) but how do you know > there is a new version available in experemental from apt-cache? apt-cache show or showpkg will show this.. Daniel -- /-

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-21 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:29:48AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Michael Stone > > | On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 10:26:37AM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > | > Yes, please use experemental more than it is now. > | > | Please never use experimental. I much prefer private apt repositories > | with disc

Re: Why are new package versions depending on libc6 in unstable?

2002-11-21 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Michael Stone | On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 10:26:37AM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: | > Yes, please use experemental more than it is now. | | Please never use experimental. I much prefer private apt repositories | with discrete units (e.g., an X repository or gnome repository) over | experimental, whi