Re: automake transition breakages

2013-10-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes (Re: automake transition breakages): Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes: Meaning one needs to get a fix once; a random NMUer might need to chase upstream patches (never a pleasure when fixing unrelated issues). Given what you wrote, I'm not sure what it buys us

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-10-11 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (2013-09-30): That's nice for well maintained packages. Not so nice when packages start FTBFSing in the middle of a transition because of an automake update, and maintainers are otherwise busy or MIA. FWIW it took me less than 10 days after I wrote this to

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-10-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk writes: Russ Allbery writes (Re: automake transition breakages): Well, the simple answer is that we avoid having to maintain local patches against the upstream source to remove -Werror, since generally it's not something over which we have a choice

In defense of -Werror [was, Re: automake transition breakages]

2013-10-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:35:06AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes: Julian Taylor jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com (2013-09-30): At minimum the packages using Werror should be test rebuilt before each new upload:

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi Eric, On Mon, Sep 30, 2013, at 4:50, Eric Dorland wrote: * Ondřej Surý (ond...@sury.org) wrote: Hi, recent automake transition to 1.14 broke (FTBFS) at least two of my packages. Would it be possible to coordinate the (next) transition better than uploaddeal with breakages like

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2013-09-30 at 11:09:26 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: I have seen these two breakages (so far): libgd2: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724841 This uses -Werror in AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE, don't do that. gyrus: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724917

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Guillem Jover (guil...@debian.org) wrote: Hi! On Mon, 2013-09-30 at 11:09:26 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: I have seen these two breakages (so far): libgd2: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724841 This uses -Werror in AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE, don't do that. Ah yes, this has

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Ondřej Surý (ond...@sury.org) wrote: Hi Eric, On Mon, Sep 30, 2013, at 4:50, Eric Dorland wrote: * Ondřej Surý (ond...@sury.org) wrote: Hi, recent automake transition to 1.14 broke (FTBFS) at least two of my packages. Would it be possible to coordinate the (next)

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Julian Taylor
On 30.09.2013 16:58, Eric Dorland wrote: Doing a rebuild is something I could try for next time. I'm not really familiar with how to do that though, can you point me in the right direction? What sort of lintian checks did you have in mind? At minimum the packages using Werror should be test

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Cyril Brulebois
[ Dropping -release@ ] Julian Taylor jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com (2013-09-30): On 30.09.2013 16:58, Eric Dorland wrote: Doing a rebuild is something I could try for next time. I'm not really familiar with how to do that though, can you point me in the right direction? What sort of

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes: Julian Taylor jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com (2013-09-30): At minimum the packages using Werror should be test rebuilt before each new upload: http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.*-Werror The list is small enough that it can be done

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Russ Allbery r...@debian.org (2013-09-30): I use -Werror for Automake for all of the packages for which I'm upstream and have not noticed it being a serious issue, although maybe I'm missing something? But I didn't have any trouble regenerating the files for my various packages with Automake

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes: Meaning one needs to get a fix once; a random NMUer might need to chase upstream patches (never a pleasure when fixing unrelated issues). Given what you wrote, I'm not sure what it buys us to keep -Werror in distribution packages, except for the

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) wrote: Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes: Julian Taylor jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com (2013-09-30): At minimum the packages using Werror should be test rebuilt before each new upload: http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.*-Werror

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2013-09-30 20:38, Eric Dorland wrote: * Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) wrote: Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes: Julian Taylor jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com (2013-09-30): At minimum the packages using Werror should be test rebuilt before each new upload:

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Niels Thykier (ni...@thykier.net) wrote: On 2013-09-30 20:38, Eric Dorland wrote: * Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) wrote: Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org writes: Julian Taylor jtaylor.deb...@googlemail.com (2013-09-30): At minimum the packages using Werror should be test rebuilt

automake transition breakages

2013-09-29 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi, recent automake transition to 1.14 broke (FTBFS) at least two of my packages. Would it be possible to coordinate the (next) transition better than uploaddeal with breakages like we do with the rest of our packages? O. -- Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org Knot DNS (https://www.knot-dns.cz/) – a

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-29 Thread Eric Dorland
* Ondřej Surý (ond...@sury.org) wrote: Hi, recent automake transition to 1.14 broke (FTBFS) at least two of my packages. Would it be possible to coordinate the (next) transition better than uploaddeal with breakages like we do with the rest of our packages? Did the transition from